Final attribution of private (and maybe common) storage space

Hi @reef-full , @reef-associate
ping @marcelh

For the basic deed, we will need to hire a land surveyor to determine the ‘quote parts’. This is a prerequisite for the notary/for the contracts to sell lots from the current owners to the rest of the group. At a later stage they are also required for the statutes of the copropriété which define how much each household owns.

To determine these ‘quote parts’, the land surveyor doesn’t only need to know the dimensions of your unit, but also of your private storage space on level -1 of Obelix.

There is no obligation to take any private storage space, so feel free to say you don’t want any. (but please fill in the form anyway).

We had surveys about private storage wishes before. This one is final now, so please think twice before you fill this in. The deadline is to fill in the survey is 22/08/2026 20:00. I also invite the associate members to fill it in, there is no guarantee we will take your wish into account, it will all depend on what you fill in.

Some more info about the private storage space:

  • the minimum size of private storage space is 1.3 m2

  • if you want a space smaller than 5 m² you will need to share it with someone (see plans)

  • the individual lots are delineated on the plan with red dotted lines and coded by C and then a number.

  • we have a total of 88,8 m2 of private storage space available. With 21 units, this comes to an average of 4.2 m2 per unit. But don’t let yourself be influenced too much by this number. Some already have indicated to not want any, while others want quite a big space. We might also want some extra common storage to store the things we buy in common.

  • The default is to share your private storage space with a couple of other reeflings (1 to max 5 other reeflings). If you don’t want to share, please indicate in the survey and preferably take a big enough surface (see plans)

  • link to level -1 of Obelix: Login – Nextcloud

This is the link to the survey: Final choice about the private storage space

if you have any questions, let me know

8 Likes

Question: what does it mean that the space is shared?

  1. Each households owns its own space, but there is only shared access to it?
  2. Sharing households own together the space there is shared access to?

I understand it as 1, but would like it confirmed. Thanks!

2 Likes

Answer 1.

1 Like

Let me know if at the end there is space left. If there is space left, I’m willing to help.

6 Likes

For those who have a parking spot, do we also need to factor it in in the amount of m2 we own?

1 Like

No, parking spot is not part of this exercise. They won’t be part of the quote part, as we might sell them seperate from the units.

1 Like

hi @reeflings ,

Reading up some of the answers in the survey, i have the impression there is unclarity on the question around the common storage space.

To give a little bit of background
Last year - during the avant projet phase, where we defined our budget for the casco and the commons - we decided to not foresee any budget for a common storage space. We would to leave this to solidarity funding.

So with the question in the survey, we want to know who would be willing to help funding it. There is no obligation, no justification needed why you do or don’t want to contribute.

What will this common storage space be used for?
• storage of extra chairs and tables
• bulk food purchases for common meals/the common kitchen
• storage of garden tools
• storage of garden furniture during winter
• storage of cleaning products/material to clean the commons
• …

4 Likes

Just adding my little calculation that even if we go for 10m² of common storage (on the big side of things, I guess) and split the costs among the entire group, it would come down to something like 800 euros per household - a quite modest sum for keeping the rest of the commons up and running I feel :slight_smile:

7 Likes

Sorry if I missed something but we submitted a form and got no feedback whether the form was filled out and submitted correctly. Moreover, we omitted to make printout before submitting the form, so we would like to know whether we can get a copy of the form we submitted.

I suppose that it is very unlikely that the sum of the demanded storage space would be equal to the available space. What is the scenario when that is not the case? Will every demand be corrected by a factor, or will full members be served first and the remainder distributed among the other members. What happens in case of overbooking, namely that the sum of the minimum sizes is greater than the available storage space? And what will happen in case of underbooking, namely that the sum of the maximum sizes is less than the available storage space: will the remaining space added to the common space or will there be a second round to ask who is interested in more storage space?

3 Likes

Hi @Eduard and @Linggam

I think you misunderstood what the question about the ‘common storage space’ was, but in any case, as you are an AM we won’t take much into account what AM answer on this question, as it is not sure yet whether you will apply for FM ship

When the survey is closed, we will save a copy of the responses on nextcloud. I will mention the link to the file in this post. Is it ok for you to wait till then (tonight 20:00 normally)?

A helping circle was set up to come with several proposals.

  • this HC will make a proposal about the common storage (how big that will be) → for the PM of 25-08 or 05-09
  • they will also make a proposal about the approach to attribute the private storage space and thus will handle your question about ‘what if the sum of the demanded storage space isn’t equal to the available space’ / ‘will full members be served first and the remainder distributed among the other members’?→ for the PM of 25-08 or 05-09
  • following the approach defined in the above proposal, they will assign the different lots in the cellar to the different FM and to the 3 to be sold units → for the PM of 15-09 and/or 25-09

As AM you will be able to ask further clarifying questions and share your thoughts/concerns about all of these proposals in those PMs(but you will not have decision power).

I hope this clarifies it

2 Likes

Thanks all for filling in the survey.
You can find the output here (The Reef Shared folder/Helping Circles/Storage Attribution)

3 Likes

HI all,

The amendments to the proposal of storage attribution have been done

The attribution of the common storage
A table with the different contributions of the FMs, who committed to help finance the common storage space, was added. So please double check the contributions you commit to, on p3, the table under chapter ‘Contributions’ @Liesbet @ChrisM @Sarah @LuciaM @AlinT @els @daniellobb @Mathilde @Richard @MariaAM @joannes , ann, @Sophie_B @Manoj @Wenwei @GaultierDWM @alberto @Lee

The private storage attribution have been done
Only impact @Lee
Moving the storage space of Lee to C13-C15 which at the same time creates one big free space of 7,1 m2 (lot C33 C34 C35 C37 and C38) that will probably be divided in two separate cellar spaces, but to be evaluated when new FM(s) join.

7 Likes

Hey @els, Thanks a lot for this lightning-fast attribution of the cellar space :slight_smile: If possible, could Manoj and I swap C5+C6 with the small free space (C25+C26)?

2 Likes

I don’t see an issue..
@reef-full : anyone a concern/objection with the above suggestion to modify. FYI: only impact to the free storage space.? Please react before 30/008 20:00 if you do.

4 Likes

I’ve also update the contribution table in the ‘common storage’ propasal as @LuciaM @AlinT propose to contribute an extra 680 euro

4 Likes

I’ve updated the proposal about the private storage attribution: swapping @Sophie_B / @Manoj with the fee space C25-C26. And with that liberating a free storage space C5-C6
(if an objection would still come before Sunday evening, i will revert if needed)

2 Likes