Flyers and leaflets

hi @Wenwei

a summary of what we have of common spaces:

  • a multipurpose room with kitchen and toilet (accessible for people with reduced mobility), open for reeflings and the neighbourhood: 115 m2 gros (situated on the ground level of Obelix, front buidling)

  • a reefonly zone with small kitchen, a space where guests can lodge, a shower and toilet (accessible for people with reduced mobility) :66,4 m2 gros (situated on the ground level of Idefix, back building)

  • workshop in the basement: 20 m2 gross

  • common washing area in the basement with 4 washing machines and 2 à 4 dryers (accessible for people with reduced mobility)

  • big common garden (more or less 1000 m2)

  • 66 covered places for bikes

  • ( to be defined later: probably some common storage space in the basement)

small correction: we will have 22 units

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Thanks @MariaAM! I think there is a lot of value in having a bit more text like you are proposing.

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A relic from an age when the Internet was widely perceived as a force for the common good and individual liberation. The old noncommercial ethos was still around in 1999 (until 1993 it was forbidden to use the Internet for commercial purposes. Imagine that, eh?).

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New brochure uploaded on Nextcloud, no comment from @reef-external on Signal: Brochure_Recruitment_ 20250811_V3.0

Format:

  • Tri-fold ( 3 panels ) brochure in A6,each panel in portrait ( (105 mm de large × 148 mm de haut), which means the excess paper outside these panels should be trimmed off.
    Advice from Joannes: 200 grams matte, 100 copies for an initial quote.
    @Fionagui will help go to the printer’s tomorrow for a quote. Thank you !!
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I think Joannes said 100gr/m2

200gr seems a lot to mee for a A6 brochure

Let’s try 200g indeed. It’s not that thick. The printer can advise, too.

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Looking good! :sunglasses:

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Dynaprint postponed at the last minute its re-opening to 18/8 due to technical problems.

Paragraphe, not too far from it, quoted: Flyer Full-color printing on both sides, Size: 315 x 148 mm (open) - 105 x 148 mm (closed), Semi-matte coated paper, 250 gsm (they have 200gsm but only in semi-matte, “2 euros cheaper” he said) + Tracing + folding:

  • 100 copies: €230.00 excluding VAT (€278.3 incl. VAT)
  • 250 copies: €264.00 excluding VAT (€319.44 incl. VAT)
  • 500 copies: €317.20 excluding VAT (€383.81 incl. VAT)
    “Please note that in small quantities, printing is digital. This type of printing, even on matte paper, gives a slightly glossy effect.
    I need an HD (High Resolution) PDF file with a 3 mm bleed + trim points.”
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Thank you, Fiona @Fionagui !!

The one i uploaded to Nextcloud is in HD, already with bleeds and corp marks: Brochure_Recruitment_ 20250811_V3.0

2 questions:

  1. Did you share the brochure with Paragraphe ? because i want to know if the current format is OK for them: Design in A4 format, which means it requires trimming of the extra bits ).

Or should I arrange 3 copies in A3 as discussed last night ?

  1. Can we do a test print ?

Hey Wenwei, right I had forgotten about the A4. He usually needs the original (here the 3×A6 format recto verso) so he can put it on any preferred paper and make the recto and verso match. But if it’s not easy to export on your hand I will ask him specifically! I would still wait for the 18th if possible to ask Dynaprint, since they should be cheaper. I can also try to call Copy House (in the Center of Brussels tho)

In view of the cost, I propose to do a proper print run at a high number of copies only. We could print, cut and folder 100 copies ourselves, at my place, and have everyone have a good look at it, try it out on our friends, etc. I’ll be back in BE on Friday evening.

2 euro cheaper per what? Do you know?

I did then, and he kinda cropped it himself as a “ready for scanning” final version apparently, so no need for an A3 layout! I added it here, hoping the name is ok - please change it if needed: Login – Nextcloud

Yes, he says he can do one for 2 euros.

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Per total announced price. So for printing the brochure on 200 gsm paper:
Full-color printing on both sides, 200 gsm semi-matte paper, Format: 313 x 148.5 mm (open) - 105 x 148.5 mm (closed) + Finishing: Tracing + folding

  • 100 copies: €228.00 excluding VAT (€275.88 including VAT)
  • 250 copies: €262.00 excluding VAT (€317.02 including VAT)
  • 500 copies: €315.20 excluding VAT (€381.92 including VAT)

Maybe i can do a customised size with InDesign at work if needed, let me know.

from what i understand, the cutting, tracing and folding are already included in the price, so we don’t need to do it ourselves.

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actually, i don’t quite understand what Joannes’ proposal is. So we don’t use the printer’s service for now ?

Sorry. The proposal is to first do some prints ourselves, giving us a chance to debug and test with the target audience, before committing to a high volume (only at the high volume do I find the per-copy price acceptable).

Dynaprint’s quote was sent today - validity is 30 days:

For both options:

  • Number of pages: 2
  • Quantity: 100 (digital) or 250 and 500 (offset printing; offset has a more matte finish)
  • Open format: 148 x 315 mm; closed format: 148 x 105 mm
  • Printing: Full-color, double-sided
  • Finish: Tri-fold (from what he told me, no tracing prior to folding is included for papers below 250g)
  • No delivery
  • 1 free trial print included
  1. 1st option: 170 gsm matte offset paper

- Price excluding VAT:
100 units (digital printing) = 153.3 euros
250 units (offset printing) = 319.95 euros
500 units (offset printing) = 375.85 euros
- Price including VAT:
100 units (digital printing) = 185.5 euros
250 units (offset printing) = 387.14 euros
500 units (offset printing) = 454.78 euros

  1. 2nd option: Silk 200 gsm coated paper

-Price excluding VAT:
100 units (digital printing) = 183.50 euros
250 units (offset printing) = 409.95 euros
500 units (offset printing) = 439.85 euros
-Price including VAT:
100 units (digital printing) = 141.62 euros
250 units (offset printing) = 496.04 euros
500 units (offset printing) = 532.22 euros

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Hello Fiona,
As you saw on the Signal group, yesterday there was quite some discussion on the flyers. Overall, the groups finds them quite expensive. We wonder if you could request:

  1. quote for 1000 copies from the cheapest digital printer
  2. quote for the priced with reduced paper weight (80g)
    As a backup option, we would consider a A5 bi-fold format, but we will try not to change the format just now.
    For info, printing 2500 copies of the flyers we’ve got now cost something like 200EUR.
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just for the record. the price i gave you was wrong. this is the price of the flyers we did with our previous providers

  • belprinto 2500 flyers in color : 70 euros
  • icprinting.be 1000 noir 1000 A6 - noir RV - 200 g/m2 Biotop: 80 euros
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