HELLO! I'm Samantha, a new researcher from the University of Turin working on Sustainable Cities and Digital Participation

No, not intentional. I cannot do Friday, though… maybe the two of you can go ahead on friday?

No, not intentionally. I can do Thursday, but not Friday. For now I moved it to Friday, so the two of you can go ahead. If tomorrow is also OK for Samantha, we can switch it back.

I created a Zoom meeting and put it in the calendar invite. Heads up: it is for Friday. If we move it to tomorrow, we need to log into our account and edit it, or we will not be able to enter it at all.

Sorry, I haven’t read these messages, I got sick. @matthias, if you’re still available, ok for Zoom in 10 minutes, thanks!

what was the state of readiness/completion of the training posted here https://academy.edgeryders.eu/ ping @matteo_uguzzoni ?

For context, my call with Samantha actually happened and from what I heard she has a good grasp on the Open Ethnographer tool now but would like additional instructions from @hugi (Graphryder 2.0) and @alberto (evaluation, research questions).

From just taking a look: the site looks great and finished, but we’d have to fix a few issues and make a few updates to use it as current training material. Mostly:

In short, the Graphryder and Open Ethnographer trainings may deserve new videos.

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And for @samantha.cenere: here’s the promised link to the map of our discussion themes.

This list of themes does not include newer content (2018 and newer). But it may still help you navigate to urban sustainability related topics of interest.

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Happy to help, @samantha.cenere .

More than that, we reduced our Vimeo account.

This would be a nice idea, especially because I am getting requests like Samantha’s…

Hi Matthias! I’ve been trying to use the map to navigate the conversations, but each time I click on one of the themes from the list ‘Show naviagtion’ it leads me to a page with an error message ( Oops! That page doesn’t exist or is private)

You found a bug :bug: in Discourse! Fixed it. Try again please! :slight_smile:

Now, it works :slight_smile: Thanks!

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In my explorations, I realised that there’s a lot regarding food and how to transform the food system at a local level. Could be interesting for me, I’m thinking about exploring this topic through SSNA. Looking around on Open Ethnographer I discovered that some codes on food-related issues were already created (mainly by Amelia). The coding was made to implement SSNA on the topic? In other words, the topic has been already explored through SSNA? @alberto @matthias

I doubt it, or at least not specifically. I guess @amelia was, at the time, working on OpenCare. Nutrition affects health big time, and I can remember several projects that were targeting food to influence health.

Another interesting application of SSNA connected to my project (as kindly suggested by @matthias in our call) could be on The Autarky Lab. There seems to be a lot of material that could be connected to the broad topic of my research (i.e. sustainable cities - although the word “sustainability” is rarely used in those conversations): food, energy, waste management, etc. @alberto (or others), what do you think about it?

Sounds good.

The words “sustainable” and “sustainability” in Edgeryders are most often used literally: “able to endure over time with little or no external investment”. Therefore, it is used sparingly. “Sustainable” has become tainted with greenwashing in the 1990s, and some people have an instinctive dislike for it – though it has its uses when it’s meant literally.

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Yes, totally agree, that’s why makes no sense to look for occurances of either sustainability or its semantic field. On the contrary, the content of the conversations in The Autarky Lab seem to fit very well with the aim of the research project. I’ll delve into those conversations and start trying to code them, then I’ll get back to you

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Super curious. :clap:

Some material close to Autarky Labs ended up in The Reef , which has also the advantage of being (1) a live project, with a small but active community and (2) in Brussels.

The Reef was one of my very first options, when I started trying to understand how SSNA works and how I could apply it. So, are you suggesting I could use both categories? In that case, I do have a concern (i’ve already shared it with @matthias): what about all those topics that are mainly organisational? In The Reef there I found many conversations on, for ex, meetings, trainings, and the like. What would be their ‘place’ in a SSNA?

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That’s an organization anthropology question, not a data analysis one. I am a massive newbie in anthro, but if I were you I would look at this data and ask myself what kind of culture is likely to have generated these discussions and their associated behavior. As someone who is knee deep in that particular project, I am still enough of an ethnographer to make remarks like the following. I am asking @chiara.certoma and, dare I ask, @Nica to have a look at them, and shoot down anything that is way off the mark to not complicate your work.

  1. The Reef is investing in process (recommended readings, trainings etc). Moreover, we do it because other cohousings told us to do so. It seems to be a feature of cohousing.
  2. The Reef is a totally grassroots initiative, and no one in the group is a construction industry professional. And yet, it is run very professionally, with highly structured meetings, active online channels, good documentation. To someone like me, who has founded a few companies, The Reef feels like a company. But again, the tools seem to emanate from a culture that is not startuppy at all: they are short on hype and jargon, and long on simplicity and minimalism. The process that is being invested in includes things like non-violent communication and sociocratic decision-making, but not, for example, SWAT models. Overall, I suspect, we are culturally much closer to a 1950s cooperative in Modena (or a 1990s one in Zapatista Mexico) than to a Silicon Valley digital startup.

I would then use these initial intuition to code the data, then step back and look at these particular coded data in the context of the rest, and see what makes sense, and probably go back in and redoit all over again, in the spirit of iterative angagement with the data typical of ethnography. Makes sense?

Hi all, yes, I’ll have a look at it and talk with Samantha today.

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