How do we organize society for a whole-systems approach for developing the Internet?

Woah, time has flown since I kind of lost touch with Edgeryders last year during heavy workload and then the pandemic. My definition of infrastructure is usually hardware but since that is dependent on the social organizing I think it is important to consider the governing bodies and users ability to actually use infrastructure. Yeah typically the communications hardware, but curious to expand the view to include user and governance in that since it depends on the governance bodies and how users influence that.

I believe they can relate to each other, how data can travel in infrastructure influences data governance and vice versa e.g. how data governance allows how much and what data can travel.

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@VladiKup Hopefully it can unite people to dream but hardly have only like-minded people dream and share view of what a “better” Internet is. I do think your idea sounds very interesting for sure, curious to follow this thread and other threads about what happened. Sharing a low threshold similar to conventional books would probably make it easy to pick up.

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We have a public webinar coming up in January (date and time TBA) on the subject of making a large-scale Internet search that reflects the needs of the entire public, unfiltered by a corporate intermediary such as Google.

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Sounds very interesting, you’re welcome to notify me when there are more details.

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This is needed very urgently, I think.

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As there are layers (hierarchy) in networks - which level of privacy is needed at what layer? or: which level of transparency is needed depending on the specific needs of the layer in the network?

What are these “interconnected flows” more concretely?

Not sure I understand the question the way you intended it, but here’s the privacy challenge we faced. In any network bartering transaction in our system, I (as an example user) will be connected with a few other people in trades of goods and services. I will then get to know the real-world identities of these people, which is intentional.

If we’re on a blockchain, with enough data about real-world identities I can then do network analysis and figure out the network of suppliers for each of the participants. As in, the real-world identities of suppliers of companies that may be my competitors. And it is obviously unacceptable in a commercial context to leak this kind of information.

If we’re not on a blockchain, then there will be nothing to network analyze because there is no public pseudonymous record of transactions. Problem “solved”.