Thank you for the invitation to join. As far as the Romanian project is concerned I was referring to muzeulcoruptiei.ro . To tell you the truth, this site did not change much since my last visit 2 years ago. I wrote an email to similar initiative by some Romanian academics but never received a reply from them. I am not so sure that both are not the same thing. I wish to believe that it led to demonstrations against laws that allow high level corruption few years ago in Bucharest. I didn`t know if the Romanian project was affiliated to a party politics, I thought it was some kind of original web site designers effort to visualize human wickedness.
I was very pleased to see that an artist I met briefly in South Africa long time ago, Anton Kannemeyer made a comic book like - alphabet of corruption.
In comparison to these projects, our Museum of Corruption http://www.muzejkorupcije.org/ tends to be more ambitious, to be interdisciplinary and to have a greater outreach. Then again, we were faced with so many obstacles even during the initial phase that we realized we have to start small. At the moment, we are doing a research for one case to be exhibited this year. We are to search for philosophers (ethics), anthropologists, sociologists and art theoreticians/historians first, to conceptualize museum departments, I briefly labeled as Corrupted – 1. Language 2. Culture 3. Institution 4. Personality 5. Data 6. Time etc, etc. To be able to treat the phenomenon of corruption from various angles we need partner who think differently from us. I have my fingers crossed that edgeryders will be that partner. All the best, Goran Denic
No, in my honest opinion the site was more the outcome of public debates at the time and a way for the Union Save Romania (one of the more progressive parties) to build their political platform. At the time, they were going through their first elections. But i’d have to research some more - i just think positioning is very important for the signals one wants to send.
Natalia should know better, but it seems that what Edgeryders can do is assemble one of the departments with a standalone methodology: debate and conversations for citizen co-creation, using the forum and offline events to assemble teams who can deliver high quality exhibits for that department. I can see Culture or Data to be most relevant… from your list. Anyway, we’ll have time to talk more, and you and Natalia should have the final say int he partnership anyway. Looking forward!
Dear all, I spoke to Gereon Rahnfeld from Liquid Democracy. Please read part of his e mail:
“Your project sounds very interesting and we would be happy to talk with you about possibilities to apply for grants / funding…Liquid Democracy is a non profit organisation which is focused on developing software in the realm of digital participation (eParticipation). In the way I understand your proposal digital participation will play an important role in the project. Is there already a specific idea on how this should work or is this supposed to be developed between us?”
Besides developing Museum of Corruption platform and application/game for creating exhibits (to involve audience to participate in content creation) what else could the project benefit with Liquid Democracy as a partner?
Our previous partners ZETA Gallery from Tirana, Albania and AREADNE Life long learning center from Kalamata, Greece are still team members.
Could anyone please give me some hint on talk with Gereon, besides site building and gamification. I know that Edgeryders are great for urban games, perhaps something in that direction?
This does sound fantastic. Really interested to see where it goes next. I think there’s some scope for us to lead on this. But also, lets not spread ourselves too thin. What’s the expected timeline on this? When would we be looking to start?
Dear Alex, thanks for the encouragement. Let`s first build solid partnerships, with clear objectives, pros and cons of every team member. Deadline is 1st september for civil society https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/sites/eacea-site/files/call_2019_en_1.pdf and then Creative Europe collaboration projects
Dear all, I spoke yesterday to people from Liquid democracy, they agreed to be partners. I sent them link to this portal hopefully we will have them on board next week.
We have spoken about the MoC this week with Yanis from Kalamata and Goran. As we’re planning to apply for Europe for Citizens grant, we had to decide whether the project, as it was originally thought of, makes sense in this context. We decided to change it a little and rename it for Museum of Illiberal Democracy and address a wider range of strange, undemocratic practices that tear apart European Union and make the prospect of Serbia joining EU further and further away.
Yanis’ part would be to engage students from schools and adults in this project, as he works in the Center for Life Long Learning - I see a great opportunity here in shaping these encounters as collaborative co-production processes, where artists taking part in creating objects for the museum would team up with these crowds and exchange knowledge and skills. This is not only collaborative art making but also very hands-on learning process about the hairy details of democracy and what illiberal means in different places. I think it’s pretty strong.
For now, we’re waiting to have a final word from Liquid Democracy and the Albanian partner if they’re on board. If not, we have @zmuc, @Mirili us and AREADNE Life long learning center from Kalamata on board - I think that’s pretty solid. Maybe considering the volume of the grant, that’s enough already?
I am sending today an email with a doodle for the next meeting. Please feel free to comment here with any new thoughts and whatever was missing from our talk. If anyone wants to drop by the next call, here is a chance: Expired Group Poll - Create a New Poll or Contact the Owner
Way to gooo! This project sounds more and more political, I like it
Will all physical activities happen in Serbia, while the co-production is online and spanning other countries? Let me know what I can do to help,
It’s good that for once, there is enough time for writing the application ha!
Read diagonally towards the end, but it reminded me a bit of the same method and thinking process that Museum Of Capitalism is working on in Brussel. They have a one month carte blanche in the bourse to create a space to debunk modern capitalism between August and September. Could be interesting to create links, they are looking at guest speakers and debate evenings for 8 evenings in that time période
Hi! I quite like the idea & it certainly covers an important range of issues, which ENTROPIA has been dealing with for quite sometime. My schedule is pretty tight nowadays & in-between travels, therefore I’ll participate more in the email exchanges rather than the skype meetings, but I’ll be following the process. I believe it’s more important now to clarify things in writing the proposal, establish the final partners ASAP, etc. From our side, all relevant documents that you’ll probably need from me for the proposal’s submission should be at place by the end of July the latest. In August, I’ll be on holidays on the Greek islands and cοmmunications won’t be that easy.
I met one of the founders last time I was in Brussels, we had workshops back to back, and he enjoyed mine, about edgeryders and storytelling we can def have a connection at some point
