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Detachment, it comes with the profile

Vinay, detachment from materialism is a feature or symptom observed in most enlightened beings, along with an urge to meditate or pray, a preference for solitude, a greater regard for principles, abatement of passion, ambition and desire, diminution of ego and pride, a growing love for fellow human beings and an impulse for self-introspection, with a growing sense of inner peace.

it is a sign that he/she is no longer so bound to his/her ego as before.

Detachment usually natually develops when the lower ego consents to resign its own life into that of the higher self (or consciousness).

What I find interesting (here at Edgeryders I find this is increasingly becoming obvious), is that we observe how youth gradually detaches from materialism, as youth looks and explores different lifestyles.

wow

Wow, artmonks fascinated Now somebody tell us there’s also the Techmonk Otherhood, that would make me very happy :smiley:

Actually it’s a bit sad that monasteries are no longer the centers and guardians of high tech and knowledge which they have been through the centuries, now rather associated with old-fashioned ways than cutting edge.

At times, I sort of imagine a high tech monastery for our times: a lonely, inaccessible spot of the Earth, like Tibesti Mountains; but with a vibrant and autarkic community, mixed from all the people and all the cultures of the Earth; working and researching and living in good harmony all day long, untroubled by all this pressure, corporatocracy and competition that we got used to. And then, because really good ideas and great products will flow from such a setting, people from all over come to learn from these tech monks …

Of course it’s questionable whether such a setup would help to solve all the global issues we have right now … but the thought is tempting. (My high school was run by a Monastery of Cistercians, so that might be one reason why the word “monastery” has a high use value for me personally, namely as a symbol and as imagery for how life can be organized. Hope I could get the idea over though …)

TechMonks and Super Radiance program

Neonynos, I’d love to set up techmonks with you…!

Because of the nature of consciousness, and the fact that the human mind is biologically connected to consciousness, It is possible that when a sufficient number of people believe that one thing is real, it becomes true for everyone”, said Lyall Watson, who tried to make sense of supernatural phenomena in biological terms.

The idea of “a setup which would help to solve all the global issues” has already been explored by several researchers who have worked on this hypothesis, like Candace Borland, Lyall Watson, etc. Their findings have shown extremely surprising results.

In the first blog post I wrote about open government, I mentioned these results. In “Le plus intéressant à propos du Web 2.0”, on September 2010, I wrote:

Des études portant sur les effets de la conscience collective affichent des résultats fascinants. Candace Borland a découvert que lorsque le nombre de méditants d’une ville atteint 1% de la population, le taux de criminalité diminue spontanément. Ces résultats paraissent invraisemblables tant que l’on ne comprend pas que la réalité se forme dans la conscience collective. Une fois le fait admis, ces résultats deviennent fascinants et révèlent la possibilité prometteuse de rendre la réalité humaine positive et progressive.” (See Candace Borland, Improved quality of city life through the transcendental meditation program)

The paper “Creating Heaven on Earth: The Mechanics of the Impossible”, by Robert M. Oates, Jr., explains what is the Super Radiance program. A group of meditation radiates peace into the world. “Twelve published research studies have now shown that, ripples of orderliness and harmony radiate outward from this concentrated group of meditation experts. As the numbers at M.U.M. increase, crime, traffic accidents, fires, and war fatalities decrease. Not only do such signs of social disorder go down, but signs of coherence and progress go up.”

Like every other aspect of nature— like gravity, like electromagnetism—consciousness is at basis a field, an infinite, unbounded, unmanifest reality. And waves travel this field like ripples travel the surface of a pond. Radio provides an analogy. There waves can’t be seen, but they have their effects. To put the hypothesis as compactly as possible: the human mind can bring peace to

the world because the human mind is one with the world, at the most basic level.

I haven’t participated in Super Radiance sessions yet. I am not an experienced meditant, but I’d to give it a try at one point.

I was thinking of doing an experimental open government projects based on this hypothesis. By asking a small number of citizens to focus on the positive side of something, instead of confrontation and criticism, instead of seeing the problem, contemplate the desired goal, it might be possible to reach unexpected results. This type of projet would not cost much (compared to what is spent on national defense), and might produce considerable effect. It wouldn’t necessarily have to be champion meditants engaged for such an experiment. For instance, members of the Anonymous movement, or another group of self-selected citizens, could be used to test this hypothesis. Also, champion meditants could be matched with ordinary citizens. Group sessions could take place simultaneously in several cities spread over the world.

Interesting

Didn’t know about artmonks or techmonks. Really interesting stuff you share here, the four of you.

The way I wanna live is pretty close to your definitions. But instead of monks, I’d say citizen.

I think everyone should be able to find his own way and to have tools to get to it. These tools are knowledge and abilities. If everyone had the same access to education (not alking about schools), they would be able to decide their own way and build it.

I see myself a bit like a art-techno-monk. I love all kind of art as well as science, and to me, both are equally important and complete each other. Art feeds the soul, allows to express the untold when science stimulates our imagination and makes wonderful things become reality.

I’d like to live in a place where every talent is rewarded, promoted, encouraged. I’m not against the monastery idea. As you said, we owe them a lot of our actual knowledge, and more importantly a lot of beers and liquors we enjoy to drink nowadays ! :wink:

The place I’m thinking about is a balance between public and private life.

In that place, there is no intellectual property, but everyone can have its secret garden.

There’s common places to eat, work, share, and private places where you can be alone, retreat, meditate…

Comparing it to monasteries makes sense, I’ll think more about it.

You shared really good clues, thanks a lot !

Anathem!

Well, there is something about monasticism in the book curated by Vinay; and, if you’ve read Neal Stephenson’s Anathem you can’t help being in love with the simple life doing quantum mechanics and cosmography at the Concent of Saunt Edhar.

Me, I remember playing a festival in Banff, Canada, which is more a college with a few non-college people livng around it than an actual college town. Since this is in the mountains of Alberta, and in a natural park (with elk roaming freely and bear-proof garbage bins), there is no real estate market to speak of, and so the Banff Center has built some simple houses in the woods for faculty. I found myself daydreaming of working there: I could just explore my omplexity economics, and if I had a card to eat in the college canteens I would never have to touch money again. I could get so much work done!

Monasticism: bring it on. Definitely.

Work as if a monk?

Alberto. I had no idea that this kind of life could appeal to you. The things you find out on Edgeryders :slight_smile:

Maybe not for a lifetime, but some time away from busy lives does some good.

However, a hermit’s life used to be dedidated to meditation and contemplation, wasn’t it? The purpose of this was to learn how to be (vs do).

You open the door on a new concept which has not yet been discussed here… work as if a monk. A new twist of co-working, perhaps?

A place with plain simple and uncomplicated housing, and cafeteria services, available for people to create. Quiet and devoid of distractions. So far, this kind of place was intended for artists. For instance, the global network of artists’ studios, accessible only by application. An artist has to win a grant from the Department of Culture, in order to be eligible to a space abroad, for a couple of months.

Could this concept be extended to other types of creators (ie not a category of art defined in the Law on the Status of the Artist)?  Hum… Interesting…

Can we add the hot tub? !   :slight_smile:

You’re not the only one …

…who feels like not belonging to this world. This world is wrongly built with stupid rules.

People should create a different kind of society, I totally agree.

I am also passionate about psychology and writing (litterature, poetry, journalism). Personally, I don’t like it when other people correct my writing (and editors always do that, it’s their job, but when it comes to fiction writing, i’d prefer to learn from my own mistakes).

I neither want a boss and I want creative freedom. I dislike money , greed and for-profit initiatives.

I want to help Humanity and change the world for good. I do have a few ideas, but few means to apply them.

I’d love to learn more about demopolitique. I speak french.

If you have dreams, try to follow them.

Living in a monastery, would be awesome, the only thing i want is access to the internet.

Happiness leads to empathy

(Hey, I had no idea they would be a debate about monastic life on Edgeryders!!! That is really cool!!!)

Everyone follows their own path and does what is believed to be the best for its own life. There is no doubt that the many who devoted their lives to monasteries beforehand did something good for humanity.

These were isolated cases of rare exceptions. Since 5000 years, such cases of enlightened human beings have been documented. However, we are witnessing a rise of these cases right now. I see them emerge, because I edit daily the Twitter account of an institute on consciousness. They ask questions, they talk about their experiences. They look for answers. They try to find what they should do.

Wanting to be happy and reach happiness, this should be the noble goal of every person. The path is the same in every human heart (although many are not aware of it). It is one for all mankind. And this path is leading to one world, one humanity, one happiness.

What happens, once happiness has been reached by an individual, a perennial condition of happiness sets in, often called spiritual extasy, or illumination. There is an expansion of the individual consciousness. It creates transports of inexpressible bliss and intensely absorbed state of ecstasy. Better than any sex or any ‘normal’ physical sensation.

Once the condition of happiness is reached, one gets ‘stuck’ with it. It doesn’t stop. It is constantly there, hour after hour, day after day, year after year. We often see monks with a blissful smile. This is because they really feel happiness, at every second of their lives. Since there is nothing to worry about happiness anymore, once the individual understands that is there to stay, he/she turns to other life challenges.

He/she who awakens, even for a minute, his or her life is transformed.

The individuals who reach this state become very active in their communities and they usually tend to have an impact, as this perennial condition of happiness leads to a greater regard for truth, a greater measure of self-mastery, altruism, absence of envy, malice and hate, and a greater sense of empathy for all human beings.

For instance, look at the impact that Ghandhi had, a leader of the independence movement of a subcontinent carrying a population of more than four hundred million. Such unique individuals become instruments in causing mass upheavals to change the fate of empires and the multitudes under their sway.

Currently, mankind is at a critical state because a good number of the many leading minds lack some of the essential qualities needed for a balanced evolution.

The nuclear devices and the present precarious conditions of the world are the grim outcomes of the disproportionately evolved personality of many leaders.

I worry considerably about these issues. But I tell myself that the technological leap to an almost unlimited power of destruction must have been foreseen, somehow. I cannot accept the idea of an irremediable harm done to mankind, and the rest of the living species.

I believe in this quote from Gandhi, Be the Change you want to see in the world. I like to repeat it often. I look forward to hear a head of government say that. I will get an adrenaline rush in the spine, when I hear this from their mouths. It is coming

Already, Edgeryders and Council of Europe are telling citizens participants that they are not standing at the extremity of the power chain anymore. They are citizens experts. They are decision makers. If we keep pushing in this direction, good stuff will probably happen.