Cuttings of climbing plants

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hi all,

as we were talking about climbing plants in the last PM, i was thinking to try to make some cuttings, so in a few years we have some descent plants to plant. Now is a good time in the year to do it, or in autumn (i think)

@joannes : do you know if I could access some young branches from your beautiful climbing plant ?
Do you also happen to know the name of your plant?

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of course you can. It’s a “wilde wingerd” Wilde wingerd of Parthenocissus: Alles over snoei en verzorging or a “Virginia creeper” https://claude.ai/share/3ad99a23-6d1d-4ba4-a722-bf2a7f6fe6d1

Last weekend, I visited the van Buuren Museum in Uccle and look what I saw: another Virginia Creeper, this one maybe a century old.

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Hi there!

When I looked into this I unfortunately found out that “vigne vierge” is an invasive exotic species and that you actually can’t use it :disappointed_relieved:. You can see that in the guide of Bruxelles Environnement (right at the end):

Si des espèces indigènes ne conviennent pas au projet, on s’orientera vers des espèces ou variétés exotiques/horticoles qui devront nécessairement répondre aux exigences suivantes pour fournir une fonction écologique satisfaisante :

Ne pas être une espèce reconnue comme espèce exotique envahissante ou qu’il y ait des doutes sur son caractère invasif en Belgique ou dans des régions limitrophes. Exemples à proscrire : Parthenocissus quinquefolia, Fallopia baldschuanica, Akebia quinata…

From this document though, it looks like “vigne commune” (Vitis vinifera) might be ok (although it attracts wasps…).

A few other points to note:

  • you have to take into account the weight of the whole thing and mechanical constraints. Maybe we need to consult somebody on this (facilitateur?)
  • if we don’t want to have to add a supporting structure, the plants they suggest are ivy (lière) and climbing hortensia. Although in the PDF with the list they say that a support is recommended, but that’s not what is said in other places.
  • ivy we can get anywhere, and is even already on the site. I think it requires a lot of maintenance though (cutting).
  • climbing hortensia grows to a height of 5-10 meters and spreads up to 3-5 meters. I guess that’s enough in terms of height? And to cover the whole of the left whole we would need 15-20 plants (but I can’t remember for sure how long is the site?). And then for all the walls about the same??
    But anyway I saw one in the street and it’s possible to make boutures (see here)
  • ivy is an ever green plant so at some point you don’t see the bricks anymore

Other options maybe (unclear whether or not you need a support): bignone

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HI @Sarah, I don’t see anywhere that the Parthenocissus is forbidden. It is originally from north America but quite common in Europe. And it is beautiful, especially in automn.
Of course there are other options than Parthenocissus :slight_smile:

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I absolutely love this plant, and I was a fan of it from day -1, but the excerpt above I copied from one of the links or documents that I shared from Bruxelles environment, so pretty sure of it… Maybe use the search function to look for it? It wasn’t directly in a link but in one of the pdf I think …

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