Installing one or more electric charging station for a copropriété

hi all, @coral-board , @joannes

As i see that at least one of the reeflings taking a parking place, wants a charging station, i went looking for the ibge cell giving support on charging stations.

There is the ‘Facilitateur infrastructure de recharge’.

They also refer to Homepage | Electrify.brussels, a site dedicated to the installation of electric charging stations in Brussels.

On the site you can download a 29 page document on ‘installing electric charging station(s)’ in a copropriété, where they seem not only to be talking about the
technical side, but also legislation, different systems (individual system, collective system with each its charging station, collective system with a collective station), …

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tagging all people interested in a parking spot @RichardB @MariaAM @els @joannes @Eduard @Linggam

i read the document on 'installing electric charging station(s) in a copropriété. Here what is most important for us

Environmental permit / PEB guideline

We have less than 10 parking spots, so no need for an environmental permit or yearly declarations on how many charging points we have (to Sibelga).

PEB guideline for Brussels: from 1/01/2025 every parking spot connected to a home needs to have a charging point if the owner has an electric car, in case of new construction or renovation.

Individual vs collective systems

In a copropriété with different parking spots, you can go for different systems

  • individual system: every one has his own charging point, connected to their private counter. This is not an option for us as Sibelga obliges a copropriété with more than 3 parking spots, to go for a collective solution with a common counter for all charging points.

  • collective system with each its own charging point: every one has his own charging point, all charging point are connected to a common counter. There are two ways to manage the charging points (more details: 2.4.2.1 en 2.4.2.2. in the pdf)

  • collective system with collective charging points: not every one has a charging point. The charging point(s) are connected to a common counter. Here you need to have a number of common parking spots. This doesn’t seem like an option for us as all our parking spots are private. Unless we make (some of) our parking spots common (specific). They advise to have at least one charging point per 3 to 4 electric cars.

Beyond a certain number of charging points, reinforcing the grid connection will become necessary.

There are a certain number of requirements that the installations need to fulfill, related to fire security. This might lead to extra costs.

Financing models

Complete outsourcing (charging as a service): a supplier foresees the charging points. The operational risk lies with the supplier.

Shared model (we invest in the connection to the network, the supplier as asset owner: the operational risk lies with the supplier

We invest in the assets, management is outsourced: the investment of the infrastructure is completely done by ourselves. Management (maintenance, billing,..) is outsourced.

We invest and manage everything: this is hardly done as you need a specific back office for most charging points. This is rather complex to develop and/or implement.

Technical choices to make

  1. Type of charging points
    Charging mode (mode 3?)

    Charging power (determined by the average amount of km you do daily, consumption of the car , the available charging duration)

    Requirements related to fire safety

    Connectivity (does your employer intervenes in the costs of the electricity for your car?)

    Smart charging: an intelligent operating system controls the charging (eg charge the cars when there is little electric consumption in the units, in case of solar panels)

  2. Grid connection

    The available grid connection will determine how many charging points we can foresee.

  3. Load location and cabling

  4. Fire security

@coral-board : at first sight, it looks like a collective system with collective charging points might be the most in line with our cohousing, but that would mean (to my understanding) that the parking spots would need to be defined as common (specific), and not private. If not we will need to all install our own charging station which is - to me - unnecessary and comes at a higher total installation cost ( and which might need extra reinforcement of the network by Sibelga).

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Hello Els, thank you for the analysis. I’m not sure we can decide as early as now on the specific type of recharging system we may need in the future. How about I ask the géomètre to consider that we may want to install some sort of collective charging station in the future. I believe the architects are already aware of this requirement?

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hi richard,

Yes: i would maybe ask the géomètre to consider that we may want to install a collective charging station and his advise on it.

I don’t know if it will be for the future as Joannes indicated he wants a charging station when moving in and -regulation wise- it will need to be a collective system anyway (either individual stations connected to the common counter, either common stations connected to the common counter)

And i wonder if making the parking spots common, will not allow still for both solutions to happen.

But as you mentionned before: there might need to be an update of his work at a later stage, so equilly ok for me to leave this for the later update, when we have more clarity on it. And to move fast now with what we have currently.

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This comment is probably redundant, but when we visited the Earthsong cohousing community (which is quite well-known because they published a book about themselves) in New Zealand a few years ago, they told us that electric car charging points was a particularly revealing topic for them with regard to future-proofing. When they started building their community in the mid-90s, the concept of mass-produced electrics cars still seemed like a pipe dream, at least in NZ. Nobody even considered it when they decided to put their car parking space at a considerable distance from the main buildings. Fast forward to the early 2020s, a significant number of households wanted to invest in an electric car, but it was hugely costly to install charging points at the car parking due to the distance from the mains supply…

This anecdote doesn’t change anything with regard to the discussion above, but it is (perhaps) interesting to think about the speed of technological progress when designing a long-term project such as ours, and as best as possible, allowing for as much future flexibility as possible in the design :slight_smile:

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