Private cellar space - final choice

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Hi @reef-full , @marcelh

The architects are now working on the permit, and will need to divide part of -1 of Obelix into private cellar spaces so the notary can assign each space to a reefling.

Could you please fill in the survey by Saturday 17/05 20:00?

Thanks

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Hi all,

Thanks for filling in the survey.The results can be found under TB/avant projet/Level -1.

A short summary

  • 3 of the current reeflings don’t want a private cellar

  • all except for 2 reeflings want to share a cellar space, and half of them want to share with max 3-4 or 5 other reeflings

  • with the current members we come to a minimal private cellar space of 31 à 34 m2

  • with the current members we come to a wished private cellar space of 46,5 à 49.5 m2

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Hi @reef-full

In today’s PM, there was the request to have a bit more clarity on the basement/ the confirmation that we won’t run into problems as we added the extra 12 m2.

I’ve come to understand that some full members might in fact wish for more cellar space than indicated in the last survey, and that others would prefer to go for less than the wished cellar space.

This file summarizes what you’ve indicated in the last survey => the blue column/ column B is the space I count on you will take. If this is not what you wish for, can you let me know by replying to this post. For those not wanting to change, can you heart this post so I know you’ve read this post and you agree with the m2 in the blue column.

Can you reply/heart before Tuesday 17/06 20:00?

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hi @els,
If possible, i would like to reduce my cellar space to 3-4m2.
Thank you
ugne

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I’d like to increase to 8 and already indicated this in the file …

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We would like 9 m2 of private cellar space.

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We’d like to go for 6m² and indicated so in the file.

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Hi Els,
I’d like to reduce my cellar space to 4m2 if possible.
Thank you :pray:

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We’re going for a whopping 3m² then :slight_smile:

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@Lee , @reef-full ,

with the updated results here a summary

  • total m2 that the current fm want : 54,5 à 55,5 m2 (average of 3,96 m2 per unit)

  • based on the plans of 13/06/2025 there would be 92,13 m2 of cellar space left for private and/or common purpose

  • we have 1 studio, 2 1BR, 2 2BR and 3 3 BR left over.
    based a bit on what the current FM filled in (and rather keeping it on the low/safe side)

    • studio: 0 m2

    • 2 1-br: each 3 m2 => 6 m2

    • 2 2-br: each 3 à 4 m2 => 7 m2

    • 3 3-br: each 4 m2 = 12 m2

    • Total for the future reeflings of 25 m2 (average of 3,125 m2 per unit). Total for current and future reeflings = 79,5 à 80,5 m2

=> this leaves 11,63 à 12,63 for a common storage space, about 20,000 euro to be financed on a voluntary basis. That might be a lot maybe, but for me the prognoses for the needed space by future reeflings is underestimated and might easily go up with 5 m2 (applying the average/unit of the current FM, would bring it to 31,68 m2, and extra 6,5 m2. And the tendancy is the bigger the unit, the bigger the wished space, and we now have a bigger proportion of bigger units left over in comparaison to the units already taken) , which would bring the budget to be found, down to 12 000.
From the PM I take that common storage space is something most people wished for, and with the proposal of adding the 12m2 , we said we were confident we would find a solution to finance them and personally I still believe that. (but feel free to disagree)

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for the ones having read the above message, I made 2 corrections:

  • future reeflings: 12 m2 (instead of previously mentioned 14 m2) => impact on the total m2

  • price update: it’s rather 20 000 euro. And so conclusion with a bit more question marks, but still think it’s very doable (personally).

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Ok, great. Thanks a lot for doing this exercise.

For newly incoming members who would read this message, just a quick clarification: we are only checking whether we won’t have too much cellar space. We decided to leave the final attribution of the storage space until the end, so everybody can get as close to the surface of private storage space that they want. So it’s not because a Full Member who joined before you asked for 10 m² that you will need to do it with only 3 m². We will try to look for a solution that works for everybody.

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