Attention: especially [Ben], [Rita O] and [antonioelettrico].
I just spoke to Roberto Cifarelli. The workers are back on track after the reopening of the schools. He understands the need for us to have certainties. He is planning the work in the next 48 hours. Stay alert…
update
[Alberto] today I met Antonio and the others Mimers: we made a visit to the venue again.
Actually the ground floor needs for more radical actions: waste to remove, plant systems which needs to be totally reconditoned and the bathroom affected by strong humidity.
The first floor wasn’t accessible but Antonio and the rest of the team ensured that it’s in good conditions except for the bathrooms! Currently it is occupied by squatters.
That’s it. Probably, on Wednesday I’ll meet Rossella to make the point of the situation; I’ll keep you all updated, ciao!
Talk to Roberto…
Talk to Roberto and make plans.
What are “plant systems”?
bath room
If a major re-build is necessary is there time to place the challenge of a hot rock sassi style steam bath on the table?
Of course, if our immediate need is the LOTE a short term solution is mostly a functional WC. Showers for 75 people with unrealistic expectations will be out of reach anyway. But for the unMo needs a functioning steam room would be wonderful – although I recognise that I know nothing about life in the sassi, and it perhaps should be its own house built into a shallow opening that was once just used for animals?
Beautiful rain shower here…
Bembo
bath room
If a major re-build is necessary is there time to place the challenge of a hot rock sassi style steam bath on the table?
Of course, if our immediate need is the LOTE a short term solution is mostly a functional WC. Showers for 75 people with unrealistic expectations will be out of reach anyway. But for the unMo needs a functioning steam room would be wonderful – although I recognise that I know nothing about life in the sassi, and it perhaps should be its own house built into a shallow opening that was once just used for animals?
Beautiful rain shower here…
Bembo
I’ve never built an urban humanure toilet in my life, but can look around and see if it’s feasible and what’s it’s biocapacity. Classic ones require a garden, but some build them for urban farming.
humanure toilet
just got back from dumping the buckets 
we’ve been living with one for over 2 years in a rural setting … and we were really scared of this change when it first arrived in our lives (we didn’t have any choice).
there are generally two directions to go with humanure/composting toilets: (1) ready made industrial solutions - of which there are many; (2) do it yourself composting toilets with sawdust (or alternate covering material).
it is true that option 2 is fairly easy and very cheap to build (and its way cool that the toilet isn’t anchored to the ground) … but that’s only part of the picture. another and more challenging part is where to put the humanure. If there is an outside space for it then a “humanure hacienda” can be built … this may be tricky in an urban setting (even if you have the space for it) in terms of local building codes/regulations.
you also need a regular supply of two things to operate a humanure toilet of the DIY kind: (1) organic matter like sawdust to cover humanure in the toilet buckets; (2) organic matter such as hay to cover the dumped humanure. you need to check on the availability of these things in the area (again, this is very different in a city setting then a rural setting).
If used correctly (though it isn’t very complicated people who are not familiar may need instructions and a certain amount of discipline) … there are no smells neither indoors or outdoors. I believe a composting toilet is more hygenic than a regular flushing toilet.
in terms of capacity the DIY option is unlimited. there should be spare buckets (4 per toilet) … but capacity is only limited by frequency of carrying out and clearing the buckets. other industrials solutions come in different configurations for different capacities.
It can be a huge savings in terms of construction/installation/plumbing. The same is true if during renovation you can get grey-water to flow by gravity from sinks and showers directly to garden areas … makes all the plumbing simple and cheaper (but again check regulations - or live outside the law consciously).
Don’t scare the neighbors! 
Guys, I love your spirit! But have no fear. The unMonastery was in use (as, believe it or not, a call center) only three years ago: the heavy-grade renovation had been done before. The plumbing will be there! On the other hand, the building is smack in the city center, and talk of carrying around buckets of humanure might be frowned upon by the local community we are trying to bond with – even though, as Ronen points out, their reasons might be technically unsound.
agreed
what can really freak out the neighbors is when you eat tomatoes from your garden that grew in soil fertilized by the output of humanure composting
Maybe that could be used as leverage for a local project? I believe we are heading towards a future where we may all have to use compost toilets. So maybe the unMonastery can find a way to introduce this to the city?
Matera - the first non-flushing city in Europe ?
btw … I’ve heard of city-based businesses being built (or aspired to) around recycling waste … where waste buckes are collected (as a paid service) brought to a recycling center, transformed into super-rich fertilizer (there are numerous ways to do this). Saves the city tons of water, can potentially be much cheaper then costly (to build and maintain) sewage systems / sewage processing … and provides a valuable product as output! just saying
new venue plan
