Reconvening Call, 2025 Initatives, book club selection, UNDP Conference, and Summer Residency Plans

EarthOS Scifi Economics
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My next available Wed AM is March 12. But I’ve communicated my May dates, so please let me know how that planning goes.

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The registration link for the Call is here registration - please send it to your friends and colleagues if you want to introduce them to Sci Fi Economics

Note: if you’re already in the existing calendar invite you don’t need to sign up

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Sorry @zazizoma on the 12th I can’t make it, and then we’re hitting up against the Lab happening in IST. For the next call I’ll do my absolute best ensure you’re there

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Hi everyone,

For those who missed the 2025 Convening Call

The recording of the is here, use the passcode: 6y7ux+&W

Don’t miss the chat - it was full of insights and links to other adjacent projects

Thanks to everyone who joined! great fun :dizzy:

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Thanks, @katebee for posting the recording.

Two things for me:

  1. I’d like to better understand what was meant by theory fiction since it might be related to what we’re doing here at ASU, using worldbuilding to test and develop economic theory. But I don’t want to assume these are the same things.
  2. Referring to AI as goblins!!! Yes! I will be adopting that. It’s insane over here in academia, apparently no-one needs to write dissertations any more . . .
    On a more serious note, the passivity or fatalism I’m observing with respect to being taken over by goblins is quite troubling.
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The convening call did not get around to discussing a possible book club. If people are interested, I could contribute to (or even lead, if no one else wants to) a book club on Cory Doctorow’s The Lost Cause.

  • Paradigmatic solarpunk fiction, but not of the rosy tinged kind. There are huge wildfires, toxic plumes, toxic politics and asshole millionaires in abundance. People die, and abuse each other plenty (though they also help each other).
  • Emphasis on local change in Burbank, California (would be interesting in a residency context like Messina’s).
  • Near future, all tech is familiar.
  • Interesting debating point: how important is anti-monopoly policy to create the world in the novel?
  • Strongly grounded in Modern Monetary Theory – we know where Cory’s heart is when it comes to macroeconomics. There is even a reference to money creation without full monetary sovereignty that I find very intriguing, though I won’t nerd out about it here. @Katebee

I for one welcome our new goblin overlords.
:grinning:

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I’m up for doing The Lost Cause for the next bookclub!

I’m very interested in seeing how anti-monopoly policy plays a role.

And also MMT… please feel free to nerd out @alberto :vulcan_salute:

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it’s been a while since this post, but just saw it and added the book to my wish list (was anyway something I wanted to read already :).) has the book club started yet? Am I too late :slight_smile:

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No, we are sort of all waiting for one another. :slight_smile:

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Update: I think the times are ripe for a book club on The Lost Cause. We could do it on Monday 26 May. @zazizoma , I am in if you are!

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Hi there, I’m game, but May 26th might not work, esp since it would likely be morning my time.

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So what date/time do you propose?

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depending on time (guessing it’ll be my evening, since I am GMT+4), I should be available on Monday’s, Wednesday’s, and Friday’s. Besides that so far only busy on the 22nd of May. ping @alberto @zazizoma

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Yes, the difficulty here is reconciling the time zones, what with @zazizoma and her crowd being in Arizona. Ideally we would find a slot that is evening here, morning there.

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EDIT: I MISREAD. I thought you said morning for us evening Arizona :smiling_face:.

Hmmm ok that’s going to be very early for me (earliest I can do is my 7am on weekends which is 8pm arizona, weekdays I’m busy getting my 10yo to school between 7am and 9am (8pm-10pm Arizona). But my 9pm is Arizona 10am, which seems more reasonable for everyone?

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Yes, we will do evening in Europe, morning in the USA.

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My morning availability dates are May 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21 and 29th.

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Ok, it’s decided: we will do the bookclub on the economics of Cory Doctorow’s The Lost Cause on May 29, 2025, at 19.00 Brussels time. Save the date @zazizoma @inge @Nic010 . More information is coming.

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Doctorow today in the FT! The digital countermove to Trump tariffs

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Damn it, I have a glitch. Are you still free on 21, @zazizoma ? Same time, 19.00 CEST, 11.00 AZ. Also, Joffa, do you have a Pro Zoom account for hosting the call?