Reworking the plans - new sketches and visuals for PR purposes

Hi @reef-external

Following up on an idea of @Mieke, I asked the architects when we could expect new sketches that could be used for flyers and other PR purposes.

They will work on that towards the end of the preparation of the file to be introduced mid June, which means towards the end of May / beginning of June

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We would need them a lot sooner, two weeks at the latest.

We could ask S+F to make the sketchlike drawing (axiometric projection; birds-eye view) that we all liked so much and was on the previous version of the brochure, instead of the frankly ugly renderings that we now have, even if they are more precise.

This sketch is likely easier to produce, so … win/win. No?

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Hi joannes,

It wasn’t mentionned in the last PM as we didn’t reach the GA point on the agenda

But in our last working meeting with them they said that the earliest they could introduce the new file for the permit, would be mid June, not beginning of May. We insisted to have it earlier, but they said they were allready putting all efforts on it to have it done by mid June

I wouldn’t put any more pressure on them.

Maybe you can ask @Mathilde , who is an architect and member of team External, to spend some limited time on it, or another creative soul to make some sketches.

Or use the old sketches, which are maybe not 100 % correct, but an unaware soul would probably not even see the difference.

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Hi Els

After reading your second paragraph, I said, damn, we do it ourselves. And then I read on. TOTALLY.

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Hi both,

Back in January, @Wenwei, through @daniellobb, had asked me about producing new renderings for the project. I replied but hadn’t heard back. Probably because I didn’t see the correct tread on Edgery for it.

Happy to give my input and continue this conversation here.

My first feedback is that I think those renderings are lovely.

But that’s personal taste I suppose. I do know that they resonnated with me when we first got to know the project. They also are the only drawings I saw that day that communicated that red brick will be used on the facades, which I think is quite attractive for a lot of people, especially compared to Brutopia’s white aluminium facade.

I’m surprised that producing new renderings sounds like it is part of the scope of S+F’s contract. I know my standard services don’t include that and we would charge it as added services. But renderings aren’t required for building permit applications in the USA. I’m unsure what is required in Bruxelles.

In previous communication, I had understood that the desire was to have renderings with a more “commercial” / realistic look, similar to this: https://stekkeplusfraas.be/projets/archiducs-watermael/
This type of rendering is quite labor intensive (it takes me about 1,000€ in billable time to produce). I know of some American companies who send their drawings to China to create renderings at a lower cost. So I imagine that would probably be very cost effective, especially since it sounded like @Wenwei might know people.
More illustrative or cartoon-style renderings, like the ones we currently have are generally less expensive.

But “hand sketches” similar to the one bellow are a lot faster to produce and I would be happy to volunteer my time to make one or update the ones we already have with the new design.

In any case, we need the architects to finish the design to be able to produce drawings representing it. My understanding is that they are still working on the plans, and haven’t started to design the facades yet (please correct me if I’m wrong).

I’m meeting with Francois on Friday to discuss our unit layout. I’ll ask him where they are at and what program they use. If they use a BIM program (aka work in 3D instead of 2D), that would make producing “hand” drawings a lot faster and easier.

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hi @Mathilde ,

I think @Sterre is now working on something, so best check with her or @reef-external what the plan is…

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Thank you @Mathilde. Wenwei, Joannes and I are indeed working on the flyers, and it was good to hear that you liked their renderings. We kept them in the flyer. For the posters, more visuals (hand drawing) are always welcome. Once you know when you’ll be able to produce one, let us know here! If it takes too much time, we might just get ahead and order some prints already without the drawings.
Thanks!

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Ok that sounds good, thanks!

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