Signing the acte

Another ‘get the champagne and glasses out’ - moment: the signing of the acte, the last step in purchasing the site in Jette. Also the point of no return when it comes to buying the land.

So the date is set : December 13th at 17:00 in Namur.
Some of us (Richard, me and maybe Ugne) will be going to Namur to sign and Maria and Marcel will follow the meeting online and sign online.

@marcelh : ter bevestiging: het tekenen van de akte gaat door op vrijdag 13 december om 17:00 u. We zijn met een paar die met de auto gaan, dus je hoeft niet naar Namen te gaan (en dus veronderstel ik dat je verkiest om alles online te volgen?).

Maybe a question for @reef-finance : marcel asked the other time to get the documents in dutch (not only in french): is this something we can ask? It will probably come at a certain cost… Are we willing or not to pay for this?

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tagging @MariaAM as this topic concerns you directly as well…

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hi @els
I can ask the notary about the Dutch version, but it’s for us to pay.

Also, i informed you about Odile’s situation as she is a co-owner and might need to be included into the signing group. I tag @Odile so she is aware.

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Thanks for pointing this out, I didn’t get this…

Is that an absolute must? (and is that possible as she didn’t sign the compromis?)
The way I understood it: the more we are signing the acte, the more the risks/responsabilities are spread, but i don’t think that it’s absolutely needed that all ‘reefling owners of a property and not selling it’ should sign the acte. But i might be wrong…

I don’t have anything against Odile signing the acte, as long as Friday the 13th can be maintained …

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a dutch version normally should be included in the price

marcel

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@reef-finance
should i ask the notary about this? He should know.
I get Els point about the risk mitigation. I somehow thought this is obligatory.

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We should avoid as much as possible including property owners in the second group (les participants acheteurs) as it will drive registration fees for the second transaction up, background info here on pages 6/7 Login – Nextcloud
If the current owner agrees with people being added into the acte then it‘s all good our notary will check that.

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@Odile : maybe somebody should explain you things a bit more? (or has somebody been doing that already?).
In any case: could you keep friday 13th of December at 17:00 free for the moment, if that’s possible?

I just blocked the 13th of December to keep it free (just in case).

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Thank you Odile ! Ugne will confirm with the notary whether you will be part of the group that signs the act and get back to you.
In November we could probably foresee an informative session on the property purchase, this could be based on the accord prealable that we all signed and this presentation that Alberto had , at the time , worked on: Login – Nextcloud

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Thank you for your reply Richard!
The informative session on the property purchase will be very useful I think.
Will wait for the answer from the notary to know more about the next step.
Have a pleasant Sunday.

Absolutely not a must.

Legally we are not obliged, but certainly we should do so. The notary confirmed on a call with Lucia that persons non eligible for the abatement and being members of the group that will buy from the initial owners will incur 12,5% on their part of the plot in addition to their share of the initial 12,5%.

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Is that so? I understood that even the people who own the lot (indivisé) will have to buy from themselves the divided lot, and, yes, pay the 12.5%. So, whether Odile is or not in the buyers’ group, she will still incur in the same costs.

Could you let me know where you got that info from, so that I can look into it further? What I understood is that we pay 1% registration fees and ca. 1% notary fees / other fees to end the indivision and sell lots among us, quote notary:

Lorsque les associés cèdent entre ceux qui étaient propriétaires lors de l’achat, c’est du 1%.

That would have been someone reporting on the notary, I don’t remember who. But I remember the argument: owning 10% of a site indivisé of 1,000 m2 is not the same as owning a 100 m2 lot in the same site.

If you have a direct quote from the notary, your sources are better than mine, and then, indeed, Odile should also become an owner. Is that still possible after the compromis?

According to the notary we can add people to the acte until early December, which is when he needs to finish the paperwork. The seller could reject additional buyers that were not in the compromis, but has no reason to do so.

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Hi @reef-full , hi @marcelh

We got the confirmation from the notary that the deed document (signature foreseen on 13 Dec) can be also provided in Dutch.

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