Taxe d'urbanisme

[els]

Hi @reef-coordination

A question on my mind is whether we will still try to have this taxe d’urbanisme dropped by trying to convince the region

• when Sarah and myself spoke to Mark end of last year, he said he still would try to negotiate with the region to have it dropped. He explained that The Spiegel tried to negociate, but it didn’t work, Mark explained this as following:The Spiegel tried to fight for it, after the region/commune already had spent it.

• the fact that Oaktree is out, might make are chances of winning this, smaller

• the region indicated that they are quite busy, not giving us a third encounter before introducing the permit, so don’t know if they will take time for it.

• we’re talking about 170 000 euro, so not a small amount

• more info about the decree: Arrete Du Gouvernement De La Region De Bruxelles-capitale du 26/09/2013 arrete du gouvernement de la region de bruxelles-capitale relatif aux charges d'urbanisme imposees a l'occasion de la delivrance des permis d'urbanisme

I personally would still try although i don’t think our chances are high.

=> to be discussed in the next coordination meeting?

[Lee]

On what ground would it be possible to drop it?

[els]

My impression is that this decree was written with promotors in the back of their mind.
Their is not much foreseen on the level of colocs/cohousings on a legal level.

I would try to play the cohousing card + the value we bring to the commune/neighbourhood with our multipurpose room.

But maybe to be asked to Mark what arguments they used

[Lee]

I’m all for it, but in my mind this just doesn’t compute (but maybe that’s just professional deformation or just plain naivité ). Don’t we live in a society where taxes cannot be negotiated?

[els]

i follow you, that’s why i don’t think our chances of winning are high, but

• because Mark said he would try and

• because it’s quite a sum and

• because the commune/region are really into our project and

• maybe with a tear or two and some arguments of prices being high and not finding members that easy, that can work?

[Lee]

I really don’t see it personally, and I would feel more comfortable if we would be clear on which grounds this would be possible before we do anything. It’s a probably a high bar to do anything shocking when it comes to corruption in this scene, and yet I would prefer to stay on the safe side and not risk being seen as an actor that is trying to dodge taxes if there are no clear grounds based on which this can be done.