Wished private cellar space and parking

Hi @reef-full @joannes @marcelh

In order to have a more recent view on

  • the private cellar space you would like

  • whether you want a parking or not.

Here a new survey: Private cellar space and parking

Deadline: Saturday 11/01 20:00

PS: this is not a final choice so if you would want to change this after the choice of your unit is final, no problem.

The architects answered the open questions linked to this topic. They can be found in the survey or you can read them in this post.

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Hi @els,

I am grateful for this initiative, and at the same time I worry that this choice comes a bit too early, and also that there are more options compared to what you are presenting.

What follows below are my personal views …

I would recommend everybody to take at least a very small private basement

The way I understand things, having a private basement increases the resale value of your apartment. It’s something that future buyers will want, and (you never know) which is also of interest for future tenants. It’s true it adds the your purchase price of your unit, but I would personally advice against not having a private basement.

It’s important to get a good sense of space

Before taking a decision, I think it’s important to get a feel, so my invitation is for everybody to have a look at my own here in the basement.

How to distribute the available square meters

In the current plans there are 83 m² of private basements available. Shared evenly, this comes down to 3.5 m² per unit.

One option could be to divide the private storage space equally, i.e. every unit gets the same amount of space. One can argue for or against this, but I’m not going to go there.

It could however be a good starting point: we could say for example that we put the square meters of those who want less than 3.5 m² into a common pot, and that we top up the square meters of those who want more proportionate to the size of their unit (so bigger units get a bigger extra).

If then we want to cater even more for people’s preferences, we can also add the question “how important is it for you to get extra square meters?”. For example, if there would be someone who, for personal reasons, would really like more than their fair share, maybe there are others who don’t care so much after all, so then why not accommodate that wish if it is possible.

Making it modular

Sharing space is the core idea of a cohousing, and storage space lends itself very well for it.

There are several options here, and I think it is possible to give everybody the option to participate in it or not: those who want a private storage space, with walls, a door and a lock can get one, and those who would like to pool their space have the possibility to create a bigger, shared space.

The way I imagine the pooling is that on paper you would be the owner of x square meters (the borders can be painted on the ground, and the space can always be reclaimed - or something like that).
And then I image we can set it up the way we see fit. It could include a bigger space, for example for people who want to store bigger items (e.g. the antique desk of your grandfather), event though we will need to make clear agreements about hoarding (which is doable). Or we could merge the private space of 3-4 units into a (walled) space with shelves, where everybody then leaves boxes with their name on.

Reducing the number of square meters

One of the options on the table is to move the laundry room to the basement (see Common spaces - where to put the washing area - #7 by Lee).
Say this reduces the available number of square meters to 73, then this still leaves 3 m² per unit. If some people would choose to go modular, I don’t see why this is not possible.

Next steps

I would personally first try to consent to the pre-final plans, i.e. where to put the laundry room, before going into the details of private storage space.

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Another option I imagine would be archive-style racks on wheels.

This would solve the problem I have with my basement, which is that 75% of the space goes unused because otherwise I can’t reach the stuff that is in the back.

just a quick reaction (and again not yet fully read your post)

I totally agree that going into detail of this (in the light that the space can be modular), is too early. (that’s why i kept it very short)

My goal was to know if people didn’t change their mind in the meantime on the wished m2 of private cellar space (without thinking of the modularity yet), which might have an impact on the question: do we have enough space to put the buanderie on the -1?

I also thought it would be interesting to have an update on the free parkings, as there are some 3 bedrooms free so attracting (hopefully) families with children who might find a parking important.

(but i admit i was maybe too hasty in launching this, and the return will probably not add much extra info)

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The results of the survey can be found under TB/Level -1

@reef-recruitment

If anybody would ask on the presentation or later: 3 parking spaces wanted (2 by current FM and 1 by Joannes/Ann), so this means 2 parking spaces left if Joannes/Ann join

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