Futurespotters Video Interview: Elene Margvelashvili from Iare Pekhit in Tbilisi, Georgia

collaborate with Elva?

I was wondering if perhaps Elva could be useful for this particular issue - just thinking about approaches to public safety and transit people have used here in Berlin, maps can be a great way to point out a problem, such as showing reported bicycle accidents by location which shows dangerous intersections and ‘blackspots’.  Or in a more positive light, a map can show where potential lies for creating safe zones. This shows people’s suggestions for ‘bike streets’ - those which could be turned into a low-speed or car-free zone without seriously affecting transit, and allowing for space for bikes to ride side-by side or to overtake safely. Similar maps could be adapted for pedestrians, but with the right expertise they could be more user-friendly and tell a clearer story. Are Jonne or Taylor from Elva on Edgeryders? Is this the kind of thing that they could help with?

ping @taylorbraundorrell

Mapping the plight of pedestrians

Hi Sam, excellent point! As a pedestrian I feel marginalized on a daily basis in the streets of Tbilisi. What I wouldn’t do for one day of car-free sidewalks! Or dog-poo-free, for that matter, but that’s another story.

We are actually already involved in a project on road safety with our local partner Partnership for Road Safety. Have a look here (Georgian only, I’m afraid). The project allows people to quickly send a comprehensive report on an accident or hazardous infrastructure using a web form or SMS. After verification by our implementing partner, reports are published on the portal. We use the reports to raise awareness within media (TV, social media etc.), workshops in schools, as well as meetings with government authorities. The portal could of course be adapted to map pedestrian issues. However, to really make it effective we would have to raise awareness for it amongst a large enough portion of the Georgian population, which would require a significant PR campaign. That being said, we’re more than interested in the issue and would be happy to discuss it further!

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How could Elva help?

Hi Sam, I talked to Mark from Elva on the phone today regarding something else, but unfortunately missed the first brainstorming event just a few days ago. Would he be someone to meet up with and discuss the ideas in detail? Thanks for the suggestions, Berlin is definitely what we are aiming at eventually :slight_smile: Friendly Roads is a project in Georgia, who have created a similar map to the one you mentioned, where accident witnesses or participants can simply text the locations they encounter, or upload photos of car crashes on the website, which are then placed on a map. We have discussed creating something similar for pedestrians with Eric from Jumpstart (I’m sorry I have no idea how to ping or “tag” anyone in my comments), we are now working on creating a list of particular pedestrian-related spots and categorizing them in some manner. We have no funds or capacity at the moment to start something like this, can Elva and Iare Pekhit write up a common proposal? Who would be the potential donors? Do you know of anything similar created for pedestrians in Berlin or anywhere else, something that has worked and that has been massively used? There’s also a website created by Transparency International Georgia, the reports of which are directly sent to the municipality, any ideas on how to pressure the municipality to actually FIX THOSE STREETS? 102 problems reported out of which 0 are fixed, and this info is on their main page. I have discussed this with Inge during our last bi-weekly meeting, the problem is the “cohabitation” of the two competitive parties in our government, which won’t let each-other do anything. For example the major’s office is now made up of the United National Movement people and they say that their initiatives don’t get funded by those in power from the Georgian Dream party. It’s ridiculous, because Tbilisi has never been so poorly handled as it is now due to this rivalry. God knows what happens after the elections!

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Map and campaign examples

Hi Elene, that certainly sounds like a frustrating situation with the local government!

I think that the difference between pedestrian rights mapping campaign and a map for fixing streets is that you can use it to generate a response from the public rather than simply as a ‘suggestion box’ which the council will likely ignore. The public is not likely to be outraged by seeing that there are potholes in Tbilisi, but people being killed on the streets is another matter.

You mentioned that a core issue is simply raising people’s awareness that their rights to safety and public space are being trampled on. While a map may not influence with the council to make changes, it can tell a very clear story to the public. That this is a big, important, life-threatening issue, and injuries/deaths are happening on a larger scale than you perhaps notice in your day-to-day life.

When you can show that you have public support, your options with the council will be much greater than they are now.

The only crowdsourced pedestrian map I can think of is the one put together by a public radio station in Los Angeles, comparing the intersections which the council regards as dangerous with the submissions of the pedestrian and cycling public: http://projects.scpr.org/static/maps/pedestrian-safety/

Crowdsourced mapping is where I saw the potential for a collaboration with Elva or Jumpstart, but crowdsourced or not, these kinds of maps have been used to great effect to tell a powerful story - here for example is a thorough infographic from the New York Times last week, which accompanies an article with human stories of the victims of accidents: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/05/04/nyregion/where-pedestrians-and-bicyclists-are-injured-and-why.html

One of the direct action pedestrian rights groups in New York, Right of Way, has actually done exactly what I was thinking of with a stencilling campaign, to draw attention to accidents in the place they happen - in fact, there are plenty of relevant ideas you can borrow from them. http://www.rightofway.org/campaigns

oh, and to tag somebody in a comment, just write an ‘at’ sign and start typing the first couple of letters of somebody’s name - once you’ve typed e…r… you’ll see @ericnbarrett listed as one of the options in the space below the comment form. Click on it and the mention will be filled in for you. (if you already know somebody’s username, just write @TheirName and it will work.

Collaboration with JumpStart.

Hi Sam, Elene et al…

I can’t speak for Elva but I know that JumpStart is very interested in this project. In fact, we were just discussing the possibility to create something exactly like this in our editorial meeting this morning. We also have a lot of experience with maps. I suggest that someone contact @ericnbarrett, who will be leading this initiative. 

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Meeting next week?

I have met Eric several times and Iare Pekhit is currently discussing ideas on what exactly the map should be like? We haven’t contacted TI yet to discuss what’s wrong with chemikucha, perhaps our map could be part of it or on the same platform since people already are using this website? What is your opinion on this?

Another thought I would like to share with JumpStart is that, I find it very important to somehow unify all public space initiatives into one influential power to tackle this monster “attitude” of our government, be it allowing parking on sidewalks, cutting down trees or demolishing the old city… perhaps we can create some kind of public space association or members group to write up a certain strategic plan of action, an online platform like edgeryders? but solely for public space issues? Certain businesses or organisations could even join, which would than be identified as “good organisations” taking responsibility for parking, trash bins, green areas, public spaces around them? Eric has mentioned you several times in our conversation, please be sure to let us know If you would like to meet. Many thanks!

sounds like a track for the June event…

I find it very important to somehow unify all public space initiatives into one influential power to tackle this monster “attitude” of our government

this sounds to me like the start of a track which we could work on at the Spot the Future community event!

Anybody interesting in taking the lead on this issue should have a read of the ‘Curate a Track’ task and volunteer in the comments @Elene Margvelashvili? @nickda@gmail.com?

Hi Elene & Elene!

Both @Elene Margvelashvili and @ellenem of Iare Pekhit are now on the platform, yay! So you can ping them directly :). Welcome Elenes ;)! 

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PED MOB!!

Hi all, I’m new and it’s my first post…so…hope to be quite precise!

If I’ve understood correctly, you are facing different issues and one of your problem is due to the lack of “quick” effects you need to sensitize citizen and also moneys.

In my job when i need to send a concept it’s necessary to “hit inside”  the receiving.

Sometimes in italy, I’ve met the BIKEMOBers…people meet in a specific place and occupy street with bikes. These is not meaning you must block cars, but if you see 200 bikes moving together is really amazing. Maybe you can organize something similar for pedestrians?

Good luck!!!

Francesco

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Critical Mass

Hi @Semola! There have been several Critical Masses in Tbilisi so far (this is one of them), but it’s hard to collect an actual critical mass, a group large enough to be noticed. Unless you are a religious fanatic. That being said, it is def something worth considering, what do you think @Elene Margvelashvili & @ellenem?

Critical Mass

Throughout our work I have realized that it is really hard to bring together a large enough group of people unless there is some incentive or as Inge said, unless it has to do with religion. People tend to be more active when it comes to aggressive protest, such as putting notes or stickers on cars which are poorly parked, but I think starting something like Stopham in Russia, is going to create more aggression and more conflict between the two different social groups of pedestrians and drivers. We are trying to find a sarcastic way to make the big jeep drivers look ridiculous in the tiny streets of Tbilisi, but that again is a whole new project. We were also thinking about a pedestrian marathon last year, but first we need to work on letting pedestrians know that they are a group with certain rights to make them come out and walk or run for those rights! Thanks for the idea though, we will definitely consider it in our planning.

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Critical Mass takes time

I used to live in Milano, and Critical Mass really took off there. But it took time: and not months, but years. A lot of the work needed to, like you say, “letting pedestrians know they are a group” is simply to show up, keep at it, not get discouraged and not let go. In Milano, week in week out, the Critical Mass people showed up, and it was not until about 2008 that a real bike culture started to become cutting edge in town. 

I know, it’s hard.

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Milano - Tbilisi

Dear Alberto, I completely agree with what you are saying here, but in Georgia you really need to spend time on educating people and raising awareness. I’m sure people in Milano, did not have as many day to day problems and all the really tough social issues to deal with, which a regular Georgian pedestrian has today. To afford to respond to these issues, is a long call for Georgian people, people who have no jobs, have sick kids with no medication, have relatives in jail and etc. I would like to ask everyone in this discussion to post any funding opportunities that they know of, we finally can spend time on writing up new project proposals and have tons of ideas, but unfortunately have missed a lot of deadlines for grant submissions in Georgia at the moment.

Thank you once again for your input!

Milan

hi Elene,

you’re doing a great job :slight_smile: I work for the City of Milan (I’m in charge for Social Media communication along with another person, Alessio Baù). In Milan, we’ve been discussing these subjects for years, and we had (well, to some smaller extent we’re still having :)) the same problems you describe. Changing local laws can be a rather quick process, changing the culture and opening people’s minds may take much longer… Milan is trying to implement some new mobilty & sustainability policies. If you feel like it could be useful for you to compare notes with me and Alessio, just contact us (I’m sending you our contact info in a private message), we’d be very happy to help.

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Thanks for this generous offer!

On behalf of the community, thank you @Paola Bonini and @alessiobau, this is a truly generous offer. @Elene Margvelashvili seems to be on the lookout for input, and you guys in Milano have done a truly marvellous job. We all have much to learn from that.

Of course, each situation is different from any other. My feeling (I have lived in Milano for ten years, just before the AreaC operation started, so I do have a feeling for it) is that the culture was already changing, and the City Hall wisely added its weight to the push for change. Nadia and I went to buy bikes in 2009 at Decathlon in Castello, and the shop assistant told as they were selling about 100 bicycles per day, in that shop alone. We were surprised: where were all these bicycles? You could not see them in the city! And yet, a change was afoot. The City Hall policies to make Milano slightly more bike-friendly found a segment of the population ready to run with them. From what Elene says, Tbilisi is not quite in the same position yet. 

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Agree

Thanks so much @Paola Bonini and @alessiobau for your offer! As @Alberto said, the situation is quite different between Tbilisi and Milaan, starting point. However, I am sure that any help, ideas, input will be of great value to @Elene Margvelashvili and @ellenem!

1 city planner, 1 architect contact, (+ city cycling Ph.D. FOAF)

in Vienna. @Elene_Margvelashvili They recently did some pretty big pro pedestrian steps recently that met with resistance initially but were celebrated once they were done. The city planer was also involved in this art project http://www.wien.gv.at/stadtentwicklung/energieplanung/pdf/low-tech.pdf

His wife currently does a Ph.D. dealing with cycling in the city, if I remember correctly. I think it will produce relatively hard data (they do experminents with go-pros and lots of data logging I think)

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very cool!

def interesting! Iare Pehit is right now in the process of revealing winners of a public art contest, and the new website is online beginning of June. The idea is to have amembership based organization that pushes for changes member driven. There’ll be several public ‘lectures’, meetings with officials, and possibilities to initiate actions. All facilitated through the new online developed forum (but mostly in Georgian of course). It’ll be interesting to look at Vienna’s case for the public lectures I think!

Right, let me know

When the time is right. Perhaps you can give me a link or two that best illustrates your project to a youngish public employee, and he may show his colleagues or boss…

Last time we spoke they said they were looking for more public input - but also some that is at least a little qualified. I’d say your place should be very happy to have you!

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