Hi @reeflings,
This is a new post on behalf of team building.
Following our last discussion with the architects, we got more information on the next steps that they envision. You can find all the details in els’ post.
With this new post, we would like to increase clarity on a specific aspect, namely the process for choosing
your apartment, making sure everybody is on the same page and having a discussion about it if needed.
It is already outlined in Els’ post, but for the sake of clarity, here are the steps for this specific process with some extra details :
- We send them our individual programs with a few broad wishes (“I want to be in a quiet space”, “I want as much sun as possible”, “my budget is very tight”, “I want to leave within the site and not on the streets”, “I want to be in this building”…).
- They try and include this in the making of their plans. There will be a lot of architectural constraints (for example, the “murs porteurs”/bearing walls having to be stacked properly onto one another, they can’t put only 2-bedrooms apartments on a single floor, …), so they won’t be able to make all wishes come true in terms of size and situation in the building.
There will be “réunions de travail” with them during this phase, although we are not exactly sure at this point what points we will be able to feedback on. - They come up with a final plan, including a final division of the buildings and a final budget, based on actual quotes and feedback from their technical experts
- Mid-november (tentative date), we collaborate on the criteria and weighing process. The objective is to rate each apartment based on 10 criteria (sun exposure, noise, view, access to the garden,…), with each criteria having a specific weigh. They will make a proposition but there will be a back and forth so that we can adjust the weighing, so there will be some flexibility.
- We now know the final price of each apartment. There will be no names attributed to a specific apartment.
- Early december, the first wave of Reeflings (the “fondateurs” as they called them) chooses their apartments, by order of full membership. At this point hopefully there is something close to our initial wishes that we can take, but it won’t ever be a perfect match.
- Later Reeflings choose their apartments, within what’s left in the apartment pool the archi have designed. Some adaptations can still be made, if feasible (for instance turning 2 1-bedroom apartment into one 2-bedrooms apartments), but basically they will have to choose from whatever is left.
Some notes about this:
- The archi will start working when we send them our program
- As mentionned by Els already, with the criteria and weighing process, each appartment will have a different price per m2.
- When we send out Le Programme, it won’t be possible to say “my first choice would be”, “my second choice would be”, etc… but only give wider wishes (light, price…)
- There is a lot of variability within the whole process (e.g. what the architects can do in term of apartment placing, the sizes they are able to propose, the fact that we will deviate from the unit pricing strategy of -10%//0%/+10% and the price per m2 won’t stick to the intial projecions we established our personal budget on).
- The financial aspects will only be taken into account at the very end (they should be able to easily attribute appartments with the lowest budget though). We asked them if we could communicate our maximum budget, but they said that wouldn’t be helpful to them, especially as everybody will have a different cost for finition (note for @reef-building : we might want to check again whether that answer stands if we send them casco price).
This topic will have a slot at the plenary tomorrow, and we would like to gather reactions and concerns (if any) on this and see if we are happy with the plan as it is, or if we need to clarify some things with the architects during our next “réunion de travail”. Feel free to start engaging with this here.
