Hello @reeflings! Tonight’s board meeting decided to ask you all if there are 2-3 volunteers willing to join a new helping circle with the purpose to start a renewable energy community (REC).
Mandate: create a detailed proposal to start a REC, including statutes and business model. The plenary should be put in a position to decide to incorporate.
Operations: meet the Facilitateurs Partage et Communatutés d’Énergie and gain the necessary information. Work as a helping circle to assemble a proposal and present it to the plenary. Coordinate with @RichardB as he seeks input from the notary.
Timeline: do this from now to mid-November approximately.
I am interested in joining this helping circle myself. Any takers?
Hi @Sterre@alberto , and any other reeflings who still want to join this helping circle (maybe max one extra person)
i checked with Alberto: he will join this helping circle from December onwards, but if he can join for a meeting before, he will
i’ve taken the liberty - for our first meeting - to take the lead and create an agenda. After this first meeting, it will be the selected coordinator taking this up…Feel free to add items to the agenda.
The agenda can be found under The Reef shared folder/Team Finance / Energy Community
As we are all joining for the weekend getaway, i thought maybe we can meetup there, if we feel like it. If it wouldn’t work out, we’ll plan a meeting in the week after…What do you think?
Today i went through the info on the site of l’IBGE and here some things i want to share:
Sharing energy within a building vs Energy community
they make a distinction between
sharing energy between 2 people/2 buildings (peer-to-peer sharing)
sharing energy within a building
sharing energy with more than 2 people/between more than 2 buildings. In this case we speak about an energy community
They state that certain copropriétés consist of more than one building, but if those buildings have one space with all the electricity counters, they can be considered being ‘one building’. This is the case for us. In that case they say you don’t need to constitute an energy community (but if understand well, you can if you want to).
Sharing electricity within a building,
doesn’t require the setting up/ existance of a legal structure (but you can if you want). In this case you only need to
define the sharing project: define the price of the electricity + sharing method of the volume of the shared electricity
install the intelligent counters (part of the construction of the buildings)
sign the sharing agreement: the producer signs an agreement with every consumer
register the sharing project with Sibelga
i guess here we won’t be able to apply for the funding of the European Energy Communities Facility
Sharing electricity with an energy community
you have different types of energy communities
the local energycommunity
the renewable energy community
the energy community of citizens
They distinguish themselves by
the type of consumer that are allowed
the property conditions of the producing installations
the type of energy that is being shared
You have certain steps that need to be undertaken to establish the energy community, and you have steps to undertake to regulate the sharing within the energy community
Steps to establish the energy community:
mobilize participants (if we keep it to the reef, i guess ‘done’)
choosing the type of legal structure: asbl or cooperation
write statutes
permit request with Brugel
set up the legal structure
tax obligation (no tax obligation is production is inferior than10 kVA)
Steps to share the energy within the community
define the geographical scope of the sharing (will determine the network costs)
define the economic model of sharing
define the sharing method
install the intelligent counters (part of the construction of the buildings)
sign the agreement for sharing
register the sharing with Sibelga
I wonder if we will make much chance in receiving the funding if we keep the energy community to The Reef only (as inclusion, integrating the community is an important factor)
So I guess one of the first things we will need to do decide as a group: do we really want to establish an energy community or not?
Very interesting. Indeed, it aligns with my own reading this summer.
I guess we start from the baseline of within-Reef energy sharing. That is our default. Then, we consider if it makes sense to try something more sophisticated.
The weekend was too short to spend time together, let alone talk about energy community stuff.
After some reflection, i don’t think wet need to meet-up beforehand, but first see the ibge energy community facilitator and after that have a meeting to discuss, create a common understanding- and define the next steps. Ok for you? If so, I’ll contact them to get this going…
Quick heads up about l’ibge: I filled in a request to have a meeting with them. We got a confirmation mail (proton mailbox) in which it is said they would contact us within 3 working days. The 3 working days have passed so I guess they will contact us somewhere next week.
I’ve been through all/most relevant information on their website. If they don’t contact us next week, I think we can go ahead with the part ‘define the sharing method’ which we need to define in any case and doesn’t need extra input from them (in my opinion).
The energy facilitator didn’t come back to us this week, and my feeling is this might take some time before we get a chance to speak to him/her. I’ve send another mail on friday to see if they could get us an estimation of when this meeting could take place.
I personally would move forward, as things are not so busy in The Reef, so I would suggest to have a first meeting amongst us.
I’ve made a document summarizing a bit the info I found back: Login – Nextcloud
Here is a poll for our first meeting:
Wednesday 3/12 19:00 - 20:30
Wednesday 3/12 20:00 - 21:30
Thursday 4/12 19:00 - 20:30
Thursday 4/12 20:00 - 21:30
Friday 5/12 19:00 - 20:30
Friday 5/12 20:00 - 21:30
Monday 8/12 19:00 - 20:30
Monday 8/12 20:00 - 21:30
Tuesday 9/12 19:00 - 20:30
Tuesday 9/12 20:00 - 21:30
Thursday 11/12 19:00 - 20:30
Thursday 11/12 20:00 - 21:30
Monday 15/12 19:00 - 20:30
Monday 15/12 20:00 - 21:30
Wednesday 17/12 19:00 - 20:30
Wednesday 17/12 20:00 - 21:30
Friday 19/12 19:00 - 20:30
Friday 19/12 20:00 - 21:30
I can’t make any of these moments
I prefer to wait till after the meeting with the energy facilitator