IMPORTANT
Hi @reef-full , @marcelh
Following the signature of the Offre d’achat, the next urgent step to do is 
Can everyone check the table below and send their part to:
Account the deposit to be sent to is:
Notaire associé Pierre-Yves ERNEUX
BELFIUS: BE45.0682.3300.9989
Message: The Reef - deposit nr 1 - JET-14
Thanks
Done yesterday for me.
Done as well.
Also done
First paiement of a looooooong serie! 
Exciting times!
They indeed have it in their schedule to do “essais de sol (stabilité et pénétration)”, is that what he is referring to? In which case, I guess why not include that if it’s doable… Although they haven’t told us to ask for a clause suspensive, and they mostly talked about checking how water can penetrate in the ground, I don"t think they are massively worried about stabilité (but I could be wrong! ). Shall we ask them if it’s a good idea to include a clause suspensive?
Also isn’t it too late? Now that we have signed the offer?
you mean, ask the architects or notary?
payment done
m
I do think it would make sense to forward Mr. Erneux’s mail to the architects just to check on their opinion… It seems it still could be added as a clause if they foresee a specific foundation or certain depth for the basement.
thank you! noted.
It seems everyone paid their deposit part. I am sending a confirmation email to the notary and asking to provide us with the proof that can be sent to the seller, Mr Fontaine.
Best
ugne
Architects. We added it to our question to the architects.
We will send it this weekend. Maybe we ask for a quick answer on that question though, as it might be needed soon if I understand well…
Can somebody look at this email sent by the notary. Is he saying we are missing 3 euros for the 25k deposit? If so, i can send those 3 euro asap to the notary’s account.
Thank you
ugne
Below the answer from the architects:
Cela nous paraît très compliqué de mettre une condition suspensive pour des résultats d’essais de sol. Nous n’avons jamais fait cela, et cela dépasse nos compétences. En outre cela m’étonnerait que le vendeur accepte cela.
So I guess it’s for the notary to advise us on the best course of action here…
hi @reef-finance
We’ve got the proof of the 25k deposit that i am sending to Marcel who will send it to Mr Fontaine, the seller.
saved here
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I suppose that ship has sailed? Has a decision been made?
I’m asking because one of the neighbours said that the site is on marsh terrain… If matexi applied for permit, it is buildable, but I wonder if it might require some special technics which could come at an extra cost…
So if it is not done yet, might be something to factor in and enquire?
And if it’s done, well then let’s hope for the best!
Good morning Sara,
Here is the exchange with the notary :
Our question :
"Suite à vos commentaires ci-dessous, les architectes sont revenus vers nous avec leur réponse:
“Cela nous paraît très compliqué de mettre une condition suspensive pour des résultats d’essais de sol. Nous n’avons jamais fait cela, et cela dépasse nos compétences. En outre cela m’étonnerait que le vendeur accepte cela.”
Que nous suggéreriez-vous de faire comme prochaines étapes?"
Notary’s answer :
Pour être bien compris.
La notion de terrain à bâtir repose sur deux fondements : statut administratif et propriétés physiques du sol.
Cela n’a toutefois de sens d’en insérer une que lorsqu’on identifie le lieu d’implantation de la construction.
Lorsque la négociation ne permet pas d’obtenir une condition suspensive, il reste utile de postuler du vendeur qu’il accepte que soit réalisée au plus vite un essai de sol car cela peut avoir une incidence sur l’implantation de la construction ou la nature des fondations mises en place voire exceptionnellement, contrarier la constructibité d’un terrain.
Long answer
My understanding is that given that we cannot pinpoint exactly the future location of the buildings on the plot, it is difficult to say “we buy the site on the condition that the building can be built on this exact parcel of the land”. We have obtained from the seller the agreement to test the soil so as to determine whether the current plan is feasible. If it is not, we will have to adjust it accordingly.
Short answer
I think the ship has sailed, but other can contradict me.
However, as you say, there was already a permit issued for this plot, as well as all the other buildings already present next to our plot, so I am confident that the characteristics of the land will suffice for our project as well.
Thanks for this!
It’s definetly buildable, but my worry is that “adjust accordingly” could mean extra costs to include special techniques to deal with the nappe phréatique…
But I guess the conditon suspensive might only apply to the case where the land is just not buildable, not to the case where it doesn’t allow the buyer to do the project within budget (right?).
So maybe there’s no point going further with this, I let you (team finance) decide what is best to do next.
I might also ask the architects about this (unless somebody tells me to just calm down on it… ), but I’ll sleep on it for now…
hi @reef-finance , hi @els , hi @Lee
Have you seen this doc sent by the notary on 11 July. It’s actually a draft compromis between Erneux and the notary of Fontaine - Henriette Talon (if i understand correctly). I saved the document here
I guess i can follow up on this thread directly with Erneu to ask him what’s next and what he needs from us. In the email Madame Talon asks to notify her once we pay the second deposit. In this compromis Erneux leavs comments to Madame Talon. I guess they need to figure this first out, but at least we have a draft.
