The architects allready got some price offers for the special techniques. The only one missing is the one for the accoustics.
They tried to contact the expert @Hannah mentionned, but no reaction (yet), they are going to relaunch a last time.
You can see the overview of these price offers here.
One remark: they have a feeling something went wrong with the offer of Walk for techniques spéciales, so they will inquire about that.
The architects indicated that the different companies offer the same service.
Stekke and Fraas have worked with all of them and have had nice/good collaborations with them.
So what they propose is going for the cheapest.
If anyone of @reef-full would object to this proposal: please let it be know before November 17th 20:00
FYI: in the feasibility study a total amount of 15,10 % of the construction budget is foreseen for the fees of architects and fees of the special techniques. The architects are still planning to see if this foreseen budget will be enough for the given price offers, together with their proper fees.
@coral-board
Anticipating on the fact that we will need to sign these price offers soonish, i would like to come back to the discussion we had when signing the contract with the architects, that we finally signed all 5 of us.
My understanding at this moment is that - legally- every board member has the right to sign a document, in name of the sosim.
And as Lie pointed out, the statutes/rules are something to fall back on if things go bad. So for practical reasons i would propose:
what we’ve been doing so far: for every price offer to be signed we make a post, tag the full members and ask for objections before a certain date
if no objections, one of the board members signs the document
on a practical level, I have the impression most of the things will be arriving in team building so ok if i see with @Sophie_B who will sign the price offers of these special techniques people (her or me)?
@reef-building : i’ve started reading the price offers, and i have some questions about them.
I’ve created a document (in the same folder as the price offers), to list my questions, so please add them there if you have some…
I would like to say to the architects , before they return from their holiday, to not wait any more for the price offer of B solutions. If anyone would have an objection, can you let it be known before Sunday 05/01/25 20:00?
Context / History
End of november the architects send us the price offers for the special techniques, only one missing , the one for the accoustics.
We decided than to go for the cheapest price offers, giving that they offer the same service and S & F had good collaborations with all of them.
This price offers were based on the assumption we were going to work with ‘1 contract for casco and finishing’.
To not block the start-up of the discussions with the special techniques people, the architects asked an update of the price offers, taking into account we might go for ‘1 contract for casco and finishing’ or for ‘1 contract for casco and individual contracts for the finishing’ or a combination of these two.
In the last meeting with the architects before the holidays, the architects said they had received an update of all price offers, except the one for B solutions (which they expect beginning of January). Walk (price offer that seemed to be extremely cheap) also updated their price offer as they had forgotten to take into account the elevators. The architects also had received price offers for the accoustics (not yet send to us).
Proposal
As B solutions was the most expensive one, I don’t see them becoming the cheapest all of a sudden. So I would propose to tell Stekke and Fraas to go ahead and not to wait for the price offer of B solutions any more.
For the accoustics I would propose to apply the same logic as with the other special techniques: if the various companies offer the same service and S&F have had good collaborations with them, to just go for the cheapest (unless S&F would advise sth differently).
Next steps
Me contacting S&F before their return from holidays to say
not to wait for the ‘B solutions’ price offer any more
to go for the cheapest price offer for the accoustics, if they offer the same service and S&F have had a good collaboration with them in the past, unless S&F would advice differently
to send us the price offers in questions so we can read and sign them.
At least one member of TF and one member of TB reading the chosen price offers in question
If no remarks on the contracts, TB taking care of having 2 members of the board signing them and then sending the signed price offers to the companies
TB giving update to architects so they can look into planning meetings with these parties.
@reef-finance : who of you does TB need to contact to have the contracts read?
I assume we’ll get them by mid next week from the architects and would say need to be read by end of next weekend (12/01) so we can ask possible questions to the architects if needed on our meeting with them on 13/01 and then proceed to signing them.
I’ve read the two offers concerning the accoustics.
the ‘cheapest’ one (D2S) and only one to read: nothing to read: just an enumeration of the posts + cost, no conditions or anything
ATC: much more elaborate. @reef-building : might be usefull to read this for those going to the meetings concerning the accoustics to have an idea what this topic means for our project.
My conclusion is: it’s not D2S who is the cheapest, but ATS. I arrive at 10,200 without options vs 11.600. (from S&F i understood to not consider the options to be able to compare the two: see post).
I’ll talk about it on monday when TB sees the architects
