Assorted thoughts about IT that I wish I knew when growing up
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Ett sätt att bygga ett open source privat moln: https://jaas.ai/u/erik-lonroth/nextcloud-collabora-tls/bundle/15
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Are you guys ok with me uploading one of the photos of you working here?
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Thanx for a great time today. I’m a bit tired, but really happy with meeting you all. Special thanx to @MariaEuler who did so much for us to get this event flying. Also bit thanx to @hugi and the team at Blivande. We hope to be back again soon for follow up workshops!
I will create a summary from our day and post here along with the next step ambitions for the group.
If you didn’t manage to attend this time, this thread will be used for the continued discussions and connections. Participation and contributions to our work is welcome.
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And thank you @erik_lonroth, as well as all other contributors! 
I failed to anticipate it, but I’d really want some chat room to continue our conversation. You can find me at all the regular platforms (facebook, twitter, signal, telegram) but as I joined re-joined Matrix an old invitation to Change Course Public popped up and I found both @akenyg and @ellewe there. So I’m @UncleCJ:matrix.org and @xuwbc8XWOvsDPKflBsvq2fZ+kZe0AgRw9EYIovipmrU=.ed25519 on Scuttlebutt. Is there a suitable real-time room for edgeryders anywhere?
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What do you mean with that?
Thank you also to @erik_lonroth and the workshop participants for working together with us to make some positive change and for beeing good guest at House Blivande 
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Chat, group instant messaging. It’s not spot on to bring “Teaching Teachers Open Source” into the “Change Course Public” room in Matrix, so I wondered if Edgeryders chat somewhere, or perhaps try to keep everything in this forum?
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@MariaEuler I am thinking about the RIOT we use for fast coordination that perhaps a room could be set up in if you guys need/want @unclecj ?
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“nextcloud” is perhaps what the community needs. It has a rich plugin flora and I use it all the time to maintain my privacy, skills, ownership of my data and compute and just not having to totally become a subscriber.
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Here is the concluding document from the workshop! I hope it will be valuable for you as it was for me!
Looking forward to you comments, reflections and edits: @MariaEuler @hugi @nadia @unclecj @akenyg @ellewe @haj
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Thank you @erik_lonroth. Could you please also copy the text (and if possible pictures into a post in this thread so people can read and reply here directly?
have a great Christmas time
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Takeaways: Teaching Teachers Open Source
Workshop 28:th november 2019 in Stockholm
Participants ranged from: Academia, Software industry, Media, Entrepreneurship
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A full day of learning, sharing experiences and discussions.
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Teaching open source values in schools and general academia is much needed but faces significant resistance. We concluded that the drivers for adopting technology – any – in schools are generally driven by proprietary interests with little or no philosophical or ethical value ground. Proprietary software providers have the resources for marketing and lobby, plus, access to decision makers and policymakers. Winning over that force requires mobilizing our collective networks to create awareness and gain influence over these very important decisions of our time.
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Continued efforts in educating our networks on why open source is important and how we can gain momentum is needed. Its also fun and appreciated.
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New workshop planned in 2020 to bring more networks together and increase the education on the topic.
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Stay connected on the Edgeryders platform: Teaching Teachers Open Source
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The food during the workshop was fantastic!
The Research Questions
Method & Disclaimer:
We did a survey during the workshop addressing these questions.
To protect the integrity of the participants, I have excluded the raw material from this document. The scientific value will be low off-course, but the reader may want to participate in future workshop to assess the relevancy. Take it for what it is.
==== Research Question: #1 Summary ====
“Gain better understanding of the current view on ethics related to computer science and how that view affects all education in the age of internet.”
I found from the survey that most people don’t know about the foundational values that govern free and open source. Most are self taught on computer science and consult relatives and friends on topics related to the digital world we live in. Almost nobody get their new knowledge from institutions. This raises many questions.
‘Not even software developers’ seems aware about the fundamentals of open source and the four freedoms. Since those are the baseline for all legal frameworks within open source licenses, copyright law, patent etc. this raises also more questions on how practice and policies are made in real life.
==== Research Question: #2 Summary ====
”Articulate a few core principles or concepts that would help teachers navigate when educating in the age of internet and computers.”
I found that its difficult to form consistent or shared thoughts on ethics without a common ground on which to base these ethics on. Despite the enlightened crowd participating in the workshop, opinions on “what”, “how” and “why” in software is not well grounded.
Most people learned about “computers and internet” late in their lives and the age of the participants was relatively high (about 30), which also reveals the immaturity of these issues at present day. It raises more questions about future generations, which was also the motivator for the workshop itself.
It was a shared opinion that questions on ethics and morals in relation to software in general were much needed in education.
Exctraction from participants:
Translated and minor edits to English from Swedish.
Name a few things important to learn in schools:
”Participatory culture, the complexity of the works and noone should be just a consumer nor just producer.”
Name a few positive outcome from teaching open source in schools:
”Stronger democracy, co-creative citizens, increased empathy, more active, more self reliant and responsible.”
Have you ever reflected over ethics in relation to computers and internet?
”Yes, how it affects Exposure and Exclusion”
Who are the most influential sources to what is taught on computers and internet in schools today
”Politicians and Skolverket (Department of Education) but there is a responsibility with the parents.”
Have you ever reflected over ethics in relation to computers and internet?
“A society divided between owners/capable, vs, unpropertied/incapable will have a bleak future.”
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Might be a good person to loop into whatever you are planning next https://mobile.twitter.com/grishund
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There is discussion about a webinar/community call within the next two weeks:
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Who want to join into the webinar? Please invite people you think might be interested and post what you think we should add to the next one :). Looking forward to seeing most of you on Tuesday!