hi, mentionned this to Lee as well a few weeks ago…, but she told to wait (cannot remember the reason…). I am ok with moving it…
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Ok
@Lee : any specific reason for not moving it? It seems it would make it easier for people to find it…
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How about this, in the Team Building folder …
… create a sub-folder at the next level “JET-14 site”
Within that folder we could have a list of sub-folders like this:
- Feasibility study - final
- Feasibility study - archive
- Archive: for everything that is no longer relevant or accurate
(or something like that?)
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Yes, that works! It’s what I had in mind.
But somebody else will have to do it, because for now it is just a bit too risky doing it online, it often corrupts files…
(sorry, somehow I looked at this message but never answered…)
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Hi @reef-building,
Here are some completely unrelated things:
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Moving the files on Nextcloud: I’ll try to do that tomorrow morning
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Building planning: today Serge said to my father that we could move in in 2026. Could you please ask them some more details?
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On the “marécageux” / swampy thingy (in the JET-14 architects thread, post 64): unless I get it wrong, the offer is binding and there is no more space for suspensive clauses.
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i think Sarah is going to make a report of the meeting with the architects… But here already the response to your question…
We checked with francois (serge came only later):
- he thinks it will be at the soonest beginning of 2027.
- It will take 18 months minimum once we have the permit, that’s finishing included.
- 18 months finishing included would mean we would need to go with 1 entrepreneur who does everything. If we wouldn’t take that option (which also has its advantages on other levels) it will already take some extra months…
=> Francois said he would work on a high level planning that goes till the delivery… I don’t know if you saw allready the updated planning till the introduction of the permit, this time with a high level timing added. Please note that we have allready taking some delay as we only will deliver ‘Le programme’ input mid august… Login – Nextcloud
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Hello @reef-building !
The minutes of our meetings are available.
We made a list of the different tasks that are currently needed in the team, and we need to fill in the roles. Could you put your name down for the tasks you could take on? I would say it’s ok to put your name down even if there is already somebody, we can then see how to make a final distribution. Also it might be good to have several people on certain tasks like taking minutes.
I realised that the person filing won’t necessarily know that there are new documents to file from the mailbox, so I added “letting archivist know when new document in” to the description for the person checking the mailbox. Another option could be that we decide these tasks go together…
See you soon!
- Minutes during the meeting with the architects
- Managin a document “Feedback from the group” to the architects (create document aggregating feedback from the group on the issues at stake and decisions that were made at plenaries, budget restrictions, questions…)
- Managing the document “Questions to the architects” from team building (editing, prioritizing questions, asking feedback from the team ahead of meeting)
- Checking proton mail box + letting archivist know when new document in
- Contact points with the architects
- Filing (saving documents from architects or contractors)
- Coordination with team finance
- Coordination with Lie
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if we can all make it to next thursday meeting, we can do it then or see what every one has given as a preference via the poll
mmmmm 
There are some tasks related to being team building coordinator or me joining team finance to be a link with team finance/coordinate with team finance.
The others are quite small tasks…
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a reflection… i wonder if one person for taking minutes during the meeting with the architects is enough, as that person probably won’t be present in all meetings => maybe we should leave this one out?
Maybe make a document for the minutes , and try to add who’s going to be present at what date (a bit in advance) and right away indicate who of them will be taking minutes…??
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Agreed! I thought that point was referring to next Wednesday only 
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Hi, sorry for lateness in discussion and poll. I don’t understand why coordination with Lie is a separate task. Don’t we coordinate with teams?
both: with teams and roles (here lie in her role of reef coordinator).
Got it.
Maybe adding another task: encoding bills of team building in free agent , see post Alberto Land surveyor (géomètre) - #37 by els
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Ok, let’s discuss this tomorrow then
Hello @reef-building,
I would like to follow up to yesterday’s meeting with the architects with a couple of thoughts.
Oak Tree: it’s a complicated question, but it’s mostly a Team Inclusion issue, so I would recommend to not invest your energy in this.
Finalising the esquisse phase: the architects mentioned that the aspirational deadline is the end of October, and that they need three things to be confirmed by us: “gabaris, nombre de logements et implantation”. Would you be willing to present to the group a schedule / planning on what we need to make it there? I’m thinking a simple planning, based on your meetings with the architects, possibly together with a revised schedule for the plenary meetings, and a list of topics that you think we need to consent to. Would that work?
Plenary meeting agenda: please feel free to introduce as many lines as you see fit. Given that everything is a bit in motion, I expect we may do some reshuffling ahead of the consent to the agenda, but we’ll have to see.
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@reef-building @Lee
Here is the document with all the questions that followed from the plenary. https://c301.nl.tabdigital.eu/f/179465
I tried to identify points that still need clarifying, and for now I have inserted questions to be answered by reeflings. My idea is to get a sense of whether there already is a consensus on these topics or whether they need to be discussed in plenary. There might be better ways to go about it but I don’t have the brain power to come up with something else right now, happy for anybody to jump in and change that if it doesn’t work.
I’m really not doing so well tonight and I struggled a lot doing this, I am really not sure if it’s ok, I feel it is quite unclear. So sorry in advance.
@Lee I feel that your idea was for us to make a proposal. Do you still want that or are things ok as they are? Could we be building the proposal together during the plenary?
Atm anyway there are too many balls in the air for me to make a proposal, and I’m not thinking clear enough.
I also didn’t get time to work on the financial questions (extra costs to foresee), but these won’t need input from the Reeflings so I feel that it is not needed tonight. Full disclosure, I don’t think I will have time to work on it before wednesay night, unless tomorrow goes incredibly smoothly or if I finish early enough to do some work before plenary…
Also the folder is a bit messy, I’m gonna have to go through it and gather questions before our next meeting with them, but I don’t expect there are urgent questions left in there for now.
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Hi again @reef-building and @Lee,
Here is the document with the extra cost: Login – Nextcloud. Els hasn’t had time to look at it yet, so it will need so re-editing.
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