📗 The Reef - Community Building Plan

much appreciated, thanks! Baobab will have a look, if she hasn’t already contacted some.

Hi all,

Status update: we’ve had about 3 cancellations since we send the email to workshop registrants for 14th November, which leaves us with 10 people outside of our team, provided no other cancellations or no shows.

@BaobabUrbain @manuelpueyo please use today to share the invite and registration form with more people!!

1 Like

Here are the texts that can be used in previous events. @BaobabUrbain, can you please look at the French version? My French is far from perfect.

EN (Français en dessous)
Thank you for taking part in this event. Tomorrow, we are having another workshop that you might be interested in. It’s about how to live green when living with others. It will take place from 6 to 9 PM at AlleeduKaai, Avenue du Port 53, Brussels. We will be talking about cooking together, using less plastic, composting, sharing our things and any other idea that would make a more eco-friendly living easier when everybody in the community contributes. Are you in? Please fill in this form and join us: Explore Typeform | Create your own surveys, quizzes, forms

FR
Merci d’avoir participĂ© Ă  cet Ă©vĂ©nement. Demain, nous organisons un autre atelier qui peut t’interreser. Le sujet est Comment activer la transition Ă©cologique depuis nos lieux de vies commun? Ça aura lieu demain, le 14 novembre Ă  18h00 Ă  AlleeDuKaai, avenue du Port 53, Bruxelles. Nous parlerons de prĂ©parer la nourriture ensemble, utiliser moins de plastique, partager nos objets, faire du compost et d’autres idĂ©es vertes qui seront plus faciles Ă  rĂ©aliser. Si ça te parle, le formulaire d’inscription se trouve ici: Explore Typeform | Create your own surveys, quizzes, forms

1 Like

Hello Edgeryders

Ralu thank you so much for joining on board and generating relevant information

FR
Je te remercie d’avoir participĂ© Ă  notre premier atelier de la communautĂ© du Reef. Demain, jeudi 14 novembre, nous organisons le second atelier. Il prolongera la thĂ©matique de l’habitat collectif de demain mais en s’intĂ©ressant plus exactement Ă  la question de l’écologie dans nos lieux. La question que nous nous poserons sera “Comment activer la transition Ă©cologique depuis nos lieux de vies commun?” Ça aura lieu demain, le 14 novembre Ă  18h00 Ă  AlleeDuKaai, avenue du Port 53, Bruxelles. Nous parlerons de prĂ©parer la nourriture ensemble, utiliser moins de plastique, partager nos objets, faire du compost et d’autres idĂ©es Ă©cologiques qui seront plus faciles Ă  rĂ©aliser ensemble que tout seul. Si ça te parle, le formulaire d’inscription se trouve ici: http://bit.Ly/BienvenueTheReef

2 Likes

Hello! @noemi, how did the second workshop go? Were you happy with the number of participants and with the idea generation? I would be very happy to hear about it!
I have a question also: I want to already start promoting the last workshop, but I don’t understand so well what it will entail. So:

  1. Do you have a more detailed description?
  2. I remember seeing in the video some scenes with someone drawing some plans on a paper. Do we also have pictures of that, that I can use?
  3. And last but not least, I think it would be very useful to combine the thank you message for the attendants of the 2nd workshop with the invitation to participate in a 3rd. Will you have a page with what you learned from it, or transform this one? The Reef 2nd Community Workshop : How can we live green, when living with others ? Join in November 14th in Brussels !

I think I will start working on the social media messages for that tomorrow, when I receive the answers and the resources I need. Thank you!

1 Like

Hei hei, it went well, we went into serious conversations soon, and people stayed overtime :slight_smile:

This is what we have so far, and we will come up with more detail next week, especially if you think it’s needed:


Only this :smirk:

We will have a new page, @BaobabUrbain is on it! :smiley:

Let me get back to you on Monday, since this is end of a very long week. works?

@noemi, please use this text to post on the 2nd workshop FB event (you can of course adjust it if needed). @BaobabUrbain, can you please check the FR version again? Thanks so much!

EN (Français au-dessous)

Thank you for joining our workshop, we were very grateful for you staying up late with us and contributing your ideas to this project. We will be posting our conclusions on the Edgeryders platform, edgeryders.eu, in the following days.
We are taking this opportunity to invite you to the last workshop in the series that will take place on Thursday, November 28, and it will be all about co-designing how The Reef community should look like. How much alone time vs socialising works best for you? Should we pool money for some expenses? how will we deal with conflict to keep it a pleasant space? How to make it easy to be eco-friendly by design? Help us answer these questions and more, register for the workshop: Sprint to the Reef ! Co-design communal and green living. Join in Brussels November 28th

FR:

Nous vous remercions d’avoir participĂ© Ă  cet atelier. Nous sommes trĂšs heureux que vous ayez pris le temps pour partager vos idĂ©es concernant ce projet. Nous aurons publier les conclusions sur la plateforme Edgeryders, edgeryders.eu, cette semaine.
Nous profitons de cette opportunitĂ© afin de vous inviter au dernier atelier pour Le Reef qui prendra place le jeudi prochain, 28 novembre, ou nous allons discuter autour du design de la communautĂ©. Combien d’espace personnel vous nĂ©cessitez, par rapport au temps passĂ© avec d’autres? Est-ce que nous devons Ă©tablir un budget commun? Comment gestionner le conflit afin de vivre dans un endroit cordial? Comment faciliter vivre vert? Aide-nous Ă  rĂ©pondre ces questions et autres, enregistrez-vous pour l’atelier: (either link to the form or link to the FR version for the workshop)

1 Like

Perfect, thanks!

FYI @manuelpueyo @BaobabUrbain we will be running a few days of a twitter paid ad campaign to promote the workshop around Belgium.

cc @nadia: they won’t be appearing so much from the ER twitter account and risk spamming our usual network, so there you should only see the usual few tweets! They appear as scheduled in the twitter admin dashboard and they are different from the paid ads tweets. It’s a work in progress
 so bear with us!

Capture

1 Like

Yesterday I was talking to a coworker (pacome beru ) and by chance i mentioned the reef. he has some experience in creating a group to live / buy together. he mentioned a key learning from his experience. (I shared the 28 workshop with him).

  • start to ask for money asap. so you make sure that the people are there are really committed. say, every member interested to join has to put x euros to the common pot. another benefit is that you need to be quite fast when a decision has to be made and having some money collected in advance helps to be agile enough to respond. in a context from high competition from companies with lot of money.

  • process is long: above 4 years. so is a marathon style run

4 Likes

Refering to the 3rd workshop, @noemi and I tried a paid Tweets strategy to get more people to subscribe. It didn’t really work out. One of the things that might have happened is the fact that we did the tweets in English only. I stopped the promotion for now and I need your help to adapt it in French. There are two things I need help with. @BaobabUrbain, do you think you could help me with this?
I am not feeling confident in my French to do these things.

  1. Translating the tweets from EN to FR. These are the three tweets.

    Does the idea of living together in a community with other eco-conscious people in brussels excite you? Then you would love to be part of The Reef. Join us on Nov 28 in a workshop where we design together how the community #house would look like:

    We’re excited to invite you to the final workshop for The Reef, our concept of a green community living space in brussels. How should our community and interactions look like to support us and the environment? Help us visualise it by joining us on Nov 28:

    Do you want to live in a green building in Brussels, with a great community around you that cares about the environment and getting along? This is what we’re trying to do with The Reef. Join our workshop on Nov 28 to design it together!

  2. Making sure the content of this page Rejoignez les ateliers de The Reef, un nouveau lieu de vie partagée et de transition écologique à Bruxelles matches the content of this page: Join The Reef Community Workshops: making of communal and green living in Brussels!

Tomorrow I am flying from Romania to Belgium, so I will have time to set up this ad in French if they are ready by then. If not, I will try to do it in the evening.

Thank you!

1 Like

Safe travels!
PS If the ads are not ready by tonight to run tomorrow don’t do it, there is no point because it will be too late :frowning: better to cut our losses.

@noemi: Can you please add this message on the FB events of the previous two workshops? I will also post the message using Hootsuite on Fb, LinkedIn and Twitter.

EN (FR au-desous)
Heads up! Tomorrow we are rolling up our sleeves for the last workshop for The Reef; We will design together how this green communal living space in Brussels will look like and how should the community be organized.

How much individual vs common space? Should we pool money together for expenses? What shall we do if things get a bit tense between us? Come and help us design it. Program here: Sprint to the Reef ! Co-design communal and green living. Join in Brussels November 28th If you aren’t already registered, please do so here: Explore Typeform | Create your own surveys, quizzes, forms

FR
Attention! Demain, nous retroussons nos manches pour le dernier atelier pour The Reef; Nous allons concevoir ensemble Ă  quoi ressemblera cet espace communautaire vert Ă  Bruxelles et comment la communautĂ© devrait ĂȘtre organisĂ©e.

Combien d’espace individuel vs espace commun? Devrions-nous mettre en commun de l’argent pour des dĂ©penses? Que ferons-nous si les choses deviennent un peu tendues entre nous? Venez nous aider Ă  le concevoir. Plus d’info ici: Rejoignez les ateliers de The Reef, un nouveau lieu de vie partagĂ©e et de transition Ă©cologique Ă  Bruxelles Si vous n’ĂȘtes pas dĂ©jĂ  inscrit, veuillez le faire ici: Explore Typeform | Create your own surveys, quizzes, forms

1 Like

Done! thanksss

to ask for money for what? To join an organisation with no assets?
I think when you ask people money you need to offer something in exchange: what we can now offer is only the guarantee that no money would be spent without having a place where the member is actively involved in - as a resident or steward.

If understood well this money is a common pot. it will be used for any kind of cost that is necessary to achieve the objectives of the cooperative (legal advice, guarantee to offer to a landlord, events,you name it.). but governed by governance rules we set up.

1 Like

The question is then: when do you have enough credibility to start doing that? You would need a business and financial plan, already for the steps before acquiring a building.

as long as you have a minimum quorum of lets say 5 or 10 people interested you can start doing that. my friend said you should start asking from the beginning of the process. you ensure that people who participate in the meetings have a real stake on it.

1 Like

Hello @ralu, good on you for trying something new (for us). I would be interested in your assessment of how it went in the end. These small experiments help us decide when (or if) to use social media.

In the world of US real estate, they call it “earnest money.” Not a down payment, which is much higher like 20%, earnest money is exactly as you describe: a way of expressing a serious commitment. And in this situation is means there is some money to work with.

It’s not exactly the level of “burn your ships” like the commune I lived at for years. In that case I came into it as a teen who had $40. But that land was really bought mainly by one of our tribe who was an heiress who put in tens of thousands. People routinely cashed out their bank account and donated their vehicles. Later a couple showed up and donated their house in Washington DC, which we then took over as a communal satellite, and later sold. Now that is commitment. (Disclaimer: I don’t expect anyone to go that far. I’m not even sure how I would feel about it at this point myself
)

But I do think that the path to success in your endeavor will have many challenges where you will be tested. Having a “real stake” in things means you do in fact have something to lose if it doesn’t work. Strengthens one’s resolve.

2 Likes

Alberto, I am not sure how much I can talk about the costs of the campaign, but you can find that out if you are logged into the Edgeryders twitter account and go to ads.twitter.com, choose the time period 21 to 27 november (that’s when the campaign ran) and look at the data. I set up a campaign that ran for one week, with 1 regular tweet (visible on the account) and two promoted-only tweets (would have been seen just by the people who saw the ad). I stripped all info about the costs and just left the three ads in the image below and their respective click rates.

First of all, it’s clear that people reacted better to general tweets than to the tweet that somehow assumed that the viewer is more familiarised with the activity (the one about this workshop being the 3rd in the series). I wanted to add that the 3rd tweet was added last, after a few days, so even if it has the 2nd nr of clicks, still it did comparatively better in the time it was up. So maybe not having hashtags in the promoted tweet helps.

The number of impressions was pretty good (12.604), but the click through rate was bad (0.25%). On other ads I ran for other accounts, I was used to click through rates above 1%. 1.15% was quite average, but some of them even had around 3%. From @noemi 's data, none of the 32 clicks on the page resulted in registrations to the workshop.


The lessons that I got out of it?

  1. Twitter is a great way to target very specific people (by keyword, topic, whom they follow)
  2. It works well for information campaigns but less so for actual call to actions, if these aren’t very clear and easy to follow
  3. Write copy that reads easy and does not assume previous knowledge of the subject.
    So I would say good for the awareness phase of projects.

@noemi, do you have anything else to add about this?

2 Likes