@RobvanKranenburg, we want to take in ongoing discussions to be able to analyse and learn from them. The post and thread were aimed to get some people discussing their opinion on the video, the problems raised in it as well as the problems they might see with the format or the challenges political communication faces on the platform. The title was in reference to the video as it is was intended to be used as a starting point here, but I tried to give it a positive spin with the “for the future” and that future would be what we are trying to work on with the Next Generation Internet projects.
The post was meant to encourage discussing something that was very relevant and talked about on the platform, not to represent edgeryders alignment with anything.
Therefore I suggested in the call to action that it would be best to discuss the different problems and topics raised in the video with examples and projects rather than focusing the meta discussion searching for constructive and solution models.
" Nimm zum Beispiel einen Timestamp, Clip oder Referenz aus dem Video und füge deine Projektidee oder ein Projekt von dem du weißt an und verlinke es hier, oder schreibe ein Kommentar hier und beschreibe es.
WAS HILFT GEGEN DIE ZERSTÖRUNG FÜR DIE ZUKUNFT?
Wählen zum Beispiel, aber das allein reicht noch nicht.
Informieren auch, aber wieder, das allein auch nicht, also was für Projekte helfen oder könnten helfen? Und wer macht sie oder will sie machen?"
And finally, the call to vote in the European election, in the end, is something we can probably all get behind.
I have to reflect a bit on this joint response. I still do not really see the relevance to NGI, but then again that could then well. be me if you so all are in agreement that this is so. This is fine an interesting assertion: “The point of collective intelligence is that it corrects itself.” Will think about this and do some homework on collective intelligence.
I think the idea was to utilize a recent online trend as a conversation starter, and then see where that discussion goes. To me, the most relevant part for NGI from that viral video is probably “How do we want to deal with opinions and political campaigns on the Internet?” That’s the discussion that the video stirred here in Germany; basically “who can say what and when online about politics and how does it have to be marked”. Sadly, nobody from the community picked up on the thread, so we did not get there … .
As for opinions, I sure have them but I think I was careful to put my contributions in such a way to not create a politically divisive discussion. Also it’s a post by me as an individual, made in unpaid time – I’m only paid for tech stuff. (If we want to say something with official status for the project, we make that clear by putting it into privileged parts of the site like category descriptions or the company blog.)
If you have an idea how to distinguish more clearly what is project communication and what is just a personal opinion or contribution, let us know please. I think it could be clearer, but I don’t have a good idea for the UX right now …
Hi Mathias, I also have no clear idea but may be indeed it is. start to think about ‘official’ pages. As an outsider, not really knowing who are what edgeryders is, I see a discussion under Internet of Humans that is peopled by all edgeryders (everyone in it identifies as edegryders), so it looks like a kind of ‘supported’ discussion (even though, but I don’t know that as I enter, that edgeryders is not having a vision/mission as a group), and it is without a context that I can identify as NGI. So then I think, like I did, an expert that I invite from a workshop to go to the site and check IoH and find an internal German discussion might get confused, thank you for clarifying, good weekend! Rob
Since me and filip are responsible - together with you all - for outreach, how I see it:
to @ all of the smart minds here: any kind of news that you think is relevant to discussions you are having, I would like to know about those. Either to see if there’s a way we can hook a topic we find relevant to a larger global conversation, or draw in people from different kinds of believes worried about a certain issue. Of course I actually follow quite a lot of these topics already as a journalist and a hobby news reader, but we can miss things that could be very pertinent to a part of a conversation held somewhere.
And no matter the topic, there’s going to be people who disagree, but that usually makes the conversation - if done well, much more interesting.
Translations and copy in Serbian, Czech, Spanish, Dutch and Italian for the site by this week, preferably Wednesday at the latest. Translations of basic text for the site
I am Zmorda from Tunis. I will be working on a new project in the MENA region, a P2P online mentoring project, as a project manager. The effective start of the project will be next July. I will be happy to join you for this call to meet the team and learn about your work, and also to explore together what you can help us in this new project.
You need to update the team i guess, about what is happening in Germany/big on the national newsstream this week. Also links to conversations or posts, including your own. Maybe as acomment here?
So, we should have our content curation call in 45 minutes - @nadia were talking last week and we think we should/could bring it down to once a month. I am available for a call today, but let me know if you all want to proceed or if we should schedule for in a few weeks @noemi@johncoate@hugi@MariaEuler@Jirka_Kocian@natalia_skoczylas@Richard@anon82932460 and others
Same here, can’t make it, but have sent things and following the reporting on whats coming out of the social media choice content… Thats what interests me the most.
