Increasing our meeting frequency

Hello @reef-full,

We have discussed the plenary meeting frequency a couple of times now, and we concluded that we’ll need more frequent meetings.

Challenges

Here’s the challenges that I think we need to throw in the mix:

  • We don’t have enough time in the plenary meetings to tackle all subjects we need to discuss, and some of us also experience the meetings as too dense / intense.

  • According to Mark we’ll need weekly meetings to discuss building-related issues, so that we can finalise the “avant projet” stage (i.e. being ready to launch the building permit).

  • We need more space to discuss things among Full Members only.

  • There is also a concern about getting a burn-out because we are having too many meetings.

Proposal

Meeting frequency
  • We keep the plenary meeting frequency at every three weeks.

  • We add extra Full Member “working meetings” in between (exactly like a plenary, but with FMs only), about every 10 days, and we organise about half of them during the weekend.

  • We change the frequency of the Full Members dinners from every six to every eight weeks, and we change the focus of these dinners back to what they used to be, i.e. on connection and on meta-things that are important to us (see Full Members meeting: refining its aim and organisation?)

More concretely this could like something like this:

  • Week 1: plenary meeting
  • Week 2: FM working meeting (weekend)
  • Week 3: rest
  • Week 4: plenary meeting
  • Week 5: FM working meeting
  • Week 6: rest
  • Week 7: plenary meeting
  • Week 8: FM working meeting (weekend)
  • Week 9: FM dinner

Given that we’ll depend on the architects for input, we will probably need some flexibility and re-planning, but trying to fix the dates to increase availability can only add value. In case of need we can also organise or add the occasional FM working meeting online.

Poll

I’m not sure where everybody stands with regard to organising meeting during the weekend, so I like to organise a poll to check.

So in the proposal we are looking at FM working meetings during the weekend about every 6 weeks. Can you please tell me about your preference?

  • I am really in favour of FM during the weekend
  • I’m ok
  • If yes: Friday evenings are ok
  • If yes: Saturday mornings (10:30) are ok
  • If yes: Sunday mornings are ok
  • If yes: afternoons are ok too
  • If yes: I’d rather not have them in the afternoon
  • If yes: evenings are ok too
  • If yes: I’d rather not have them in the evening
  • I would rather not have FM meetings during the weekend
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Review

Let’s review how we are feeling about this say by the beginning of October?

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Hey @reeflings/@reef-full,

Here comes the draft schedule for our meetings until the end of the year (I have tried to keep the dates that we had already agreed upon as much as possible). I have been staring at this for some time now, so let me know if any date doesn’t make any sense, collides with another meeting etc.
If I don’t hear anything until 9 August, I’ll put them in the calendar :slight_smile:

  1. 14.8 Plenary (Wed)

  2. 20.8 FM working meeting (instead of 27.8) (Tue)

  3. 29.8 Plenary (Thu)

  4. rest

  5. 15.9 FM working meeting (weekend) (instead of plenary) (Sun)

  6. 19.9 Plenary (Thu)

  7. rest

  8. 30.9 FM working meeting (instead of plenary) (Mon)

  9. 9.10 FM dinner (Wed)

  10. 15.10 plenary (Tue)

  11. 26.10 FM working meeting (weekend) (Sat)

  12. rest

  13. 5.11 plenary (Tue)

  14. 13.11 FM working meeting (Wed)

  15. 21.11 plenary (instead of FM) (Thu)

  16. rest

  17. 8.12 FM working meeting (weekend) (Sun)

  18. 13.12 FM dinner (Fri)

  19. 16.12 plenary (Mon)

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Edit: Is everyone ok with weekend FM meetings on Saturday mornings (after 10.30) and Sunday evenings?

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@reeflings, just drawing your attention to the meeting schedule proposed by Sophie above.

@reef-full, as for the proposal to go for Saturday mornings and Sunday evenings, let’s go with Sophie’s proposal. It’s only one Saturday and two Sundays, so let’s see how it goes.

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If this is settled now, is it all good to edit the Nextcloud calendar accordingly?

Yes. If it hasn’t been done yet, I think @Sophie_B will take care of it when she is back from her holiday?

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No.

Anything else you would like to propose?

For now they are scheduled every six weeks, alternating between Saturday morning and Sunday evening.

Meetings are on Nextcloud - awaiting @alberto’s input.

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Thanks Sophie !
I was just making a post about this on another thread. Am I right in thinking that I can remove the FM dinner on 27/8 from the calendar?

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Right, thanks for pointing this out - I removed it. With so many people on holiday, the meeting on 20/08 will possibly also not happen. @Lee

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In the post I’ve just made about the weekend away (13-15 September), I’ve mentioned a plenary on the Sunday morning, which for some reason was a definite thing in my head. But I see now that with the schedule changes, it is now supposed to be a Full Members meeting that day :confused: So if the weekend away goes ahead (which seems increasingly likely), it would make sense to swap the plenary of the 19th with the Full Members meeting of the 15th… :slight_smile:

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Hello @reeflings,

A good two months ago we tried to make some changes to our meeting schedule (see post no 1 at the top - Increasing our meeting frequency).

Sociocracy recommends to evaluate and improve policies, so I was wondering whether we can gather some feedback on how this is going for you?

What is going well for you? What is going less well?

Anything we can improve? If yes, any suggestions?

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I’m fine with the current frequency. Whether it’s going well or not is also related to being on top of the decision-making and topics needing to be discussed, sometimes at length. I’m a bit out of touch, having missed the last plenary and Coordination Group meeting, so I don’t have a good read on the big picture. Bottom line: if our momentum is good with this frequency, then no problem for me… :slight_smile:

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Here’s my two cents as a Reefling: for me it doesn’t work very well. The rhythm / schedule (for nobody’s fault) doesn’t seem to align with our meeting needs, which causes us to cancel half of the meetings. For me there are also too many Full Member plenaries. I can see the need for having a meeting to discuss very sensitive issues every once and a while, and I certainly see the need for efficient meetings (i.e. without being outnumbered by newlings), but for now I think we are losing out on including our Associate Members.

My proposal would be to wait for the architects’ meeting schedule and the updated gannt chart (project’s planning), and then to see whether we can rethink the schedule.

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I find it hard to evaluate as the holiday period coincided with this test phase of the new meeting frequency.

  • So far it doesn’t feel like it works well, it created confusion for the associates, i have the impression (but might be wrong) that more meetings means less presence per meeting (might be the holidays again as well), which lead to cancellations so our goal is not reached,…
  • If i reread the challenges of your first post, i still think they are valid, so we still need some kind of solution
  • I also think we need to build a clearer view on what decisions we need to take by when (on the level of all teams), indicate dependencies, make a timeline and try to match our meetings to that. (fyi: In the last team building meeting we came to the conclusion we needed more regular brief contact moments with the architects to get a regular update of the project’s planning, to get clarity on what decisions/actions they expect from us by when,…)

=> i agree

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Nothing to add, I agree with the comments above!

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